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Tioga Pass opening date
March 07, 2012 05:49PM
The earliest opening date of Tioga Pass since 1933 is April 8,1977. Bets on if this year will open earlier and what date?
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March 07, 2012 06:00PM
That all depends on how much snow is at Olmsted. If that slab above the road is clear, it could open early.
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March 07, 2012 06:10PM
These days the plowing is done with many more safety procedures in place so it goes a bit slower.



Old Dude
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March 07, 2012 07:41PM
I use an incredibly scientific method to precisely determine the opening date.

The method produced an opening date of May 5th.

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Re: Tioga Pass opening date
March 10, 2012 08:55AM
I've had many years in March when I anxiously thought, "Wow, this has been such a mild winter, Tioga will almost certainly open in mid-May. I can hike Youngs Lake, Clouds Rest and Ten Lakes in May!"

Well... 95% of the time, a snowstorm in April or May wrecked these fantasies. I try not to get my hopes up. And unless we get more snow, drought conditions will surely loom. I read Yosemite is at 26% of their normal snowfall. sad smiley
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
March 10, 2012 09:44AM
i bet a pack of twinkies its open mid may...
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
March 12, 2012 09:36AM
May 4th!
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
March 12, 2012 05:29PM
My prediction is May 25th.
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April 27, 2012 12:50PM
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hotrod4x5
My prediction is May 25th.
Looks like I am going to lose.
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April 27, 2012 07:50PM
I'd bet on the Friday before Memorial Day. The road may be plowed and dry long before then, but there are downed trees to deal with, hazzard trees, clogged culverts, repairs, and some much needed general maintenance.
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April 27, 2012 08:30PM
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Dave
I'd bet on the Friday before Memorial Day. The road may be plowed and dry long before then, but there are downed trees to deal with, hazzard trees, clogged culverts, repairs, and some much needed general maintenance.
That was my guess too, maybe I will win!
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
March 12, 2012 10:21AM
From the non scientific method that I have predicted the opening in the past...I say May 5. (I was leaving chick-on hangin', but I thought I'd chime in, since dbagnall was so close to my date...)
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
March 12, 2012 12:12PM
I was going to say May 3rd to be with hikerchick, but also because I thought the process might go something like this:

They start plowing on Monday April 16 per customary.
It takes them a week because there is essentially no snow.
It takes them another week to make sure avalanche zones are safe.
They decide that opening date will be Friday May 4th and give themselves a few working days for everybody to sign off on that decision and publish the date.
Then they actually do a soft opening the day before which is Thursday May 3rd.

However the weather report calls for storms this week so I am going to say that there will actually be a bit of snow for the plows to push around.
So the opening date will be .... Thursday May 10th.
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March 12, 2012 05:09PM
Current forcast models for High Sierra call for 5-7 feet by Sunday. Sound like Spring will have to wait!

Prediction May 24th



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Re: Tioga Pass opening date
March 20, 2012 03:41PM
Hmm. What is most important to some of us is not when we can drive to TM, etc, but when we can get up to the Tioga Gate. I have not looked at Shecter's latest reports to see what long term stuff might be developing but, if this week of March 18 is a good predictor, we may have some more precip and snow over the next couple of weeks and, as Katy Anderson mentioned, they'll have to push some more Lee Vining Canyon snow into the canyon. Hopefully, we can get to the gate by May 1 which, I think, is what he fisherfolks like. And we can get out to XC in the whole region.
Surely do miss the good ol' days of Tioga Pass Winter Resort; any rumors about a reopening one of these years?
Onward!
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March 20, 2012 04:08PM
Why did it close?
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March 20, 2012 08:26PM
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qumqats
Why did it close?
It closes every year due to snow.
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March 20, 2012 10:51PM
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hotrod4x5
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qumqats
Why did it close?
It closes every year due to snow.

Not the road, Tioga Pass Winter Resort, it used to be open winters.
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March 21, 2012 12:15AM
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qumqats
Not the road, Tioga Pass Winter Resort, it used to be open winters.

They have a problem with the winter water system. Until (unless) that gets fixed they aren't open in the winter.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
March 27, 2012 12:05PM
A lot of back country skiers found Tioga Pass Winter Resort to be as good as it gets, unless one had the cash and could get to Canada. We have, more or less,kept up with the manage of the Lodge in the summer, but we've not talked with Ron for over a year, and have no idea if the water problem can be solved; the "official" demands are (I'm no expert, so I'm out on a limb with this) really Draconian. There is no way to have an economically viable resort up there in 'winter with the demands being made. Neither the owners or us skiers are happy about this.But the "officials" gave no viable alternative so far as I knowl
As I said, and I speak for many, we surely do miss that good ol' place.
Anyone know the present state of the Lee Vining gate and the road on up to the Pass?
Warren
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 09, 2012 10:40AM
From what I have read, they normally start plowing mid-April correct? Does anyone have inside info on when the plowing will start this year? With less snow pack I would assume that it will open earlier than usual.
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April 09, 2012 04:41PM
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muirman
From what I have read, they normally start plowing mid-April correct? Does anyone have inside info on when the plowing will start this year? With less snow pack I would assume that it will open earlier than usual.

With two new storms moving in this Tues-Weds, and again on Fri., I think the plowing dates may be pushed back a little, but then again they may start it anyways. Still, opening should be a lot earlier than last year (6/18).
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April 09, 2012 04:56PM
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muirman
From what I have read, they normally start plowing mid-April correct? Does anyone have inside info on when the plowing will start this year? With less snow pack I would assume that it will open earlier than usual.

They may start in mid April on some parts of the road. The opening depends on the avalanche hazzard at Olmstead. The plowing of that stretch will not be completed until that area is safe.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 10, 2012 01:14PM
i have no scientific methods. a regular at the place i work at in SF, who lives in Yosemite knows a guy who works the plows and blasts for avalanche prevention, he says dude hasn't done any blasting at all because it's been so light this year..i am hoping it opens mid-may, young's lakes would be yummy
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 10, 2012 10:58PM
With the recent rain, is there snow build up or just rain water?
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April 11, 2012 07:33AM
Here's a photo I took on April 8th.
The infamous Olmsted Pt. slide area is show along with Tenaya Lake.
I think I'm gonna be right about May 5th.
(and I'm glad I was the first to give that date)
tongue sticking out smiley

(Isn't science awesome?)





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April 11, 2012 08:05AM
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chick-on

I think I'm gonna be right about May 5th.
(and I'm glad I was the first to give that date)
tongue sticking out smiley

Nah, you're going to be off about one week. Tioga Road will be opened to vehicle traffic on Thursday, May 10th at 8:00 AM.

smiling smiley



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Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 11, 2012 09:41AM
Chick-on, that is an amazing photo you took. Thanks for the information. I hope you are right with your date!
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April 11, 2012 10:04AM
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chick-on
Here's a photo I took on April 8th.
The infamous Olmsted Pt. slide area is show along with Tenaya Lake.
I think I'm gonna be right about May 5th.
(and I'm glad I was the first to give that date)
tongue sticking out smiley

(Isn't science awesome?)


With it being in the mid-80s in Texas right now, man does that ever look good.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 14, 2012 07:15AM
With all the new snow visible on the Sentinel cam I expect that is going to delay the opening just a wee bit!
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April 19, 2012 08:49AM
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hotrod4x5
With all the new snow visible on the Sentinel cam I expect that is going to delay the opening just a wee bit!

Not so sure about that...


5 days later...


Maybe a weeeeeee bit... but not much... it goes fast...



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April 19, 2012 09:03AM
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chick-on
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hotrod4x5
With all the new snow visible on the Sentinel cam I expect that is going to delay the opening just a wee bit!

Not so sure about that...


5 days later...


Maybe a weeeeeee bit... but not much... it goes fast...

I'm formally throwing my hat in the ring by stating April 21.

Yup. That's right, this Saturday.

Little bird told me.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 19, 2012 09:53AM
If you are correct about this you are my hero!
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April 19, 2012 12:35PM
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tanngrisnir3
I'm formally throwing my hat in the ring by stating April 21.

Yup. That's right, this Saturday.

Little bird told me.

I didn't even know they started plowing yet. Don't they usually do updates about the plowing on the nps site?
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 19, 2012 12:47PM
Yes, they have started plowing, they announced that on Facebook. I have found that is the best place to track them, as the website is harder to update than simply posting an update on Facebook. They started a couple days ago. They also said they would have an update shortly to Glacier Point road on the plowing process.
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April 19, 2012 12:50PM
Thanks, muirman. Don't know why I didn't think to check their facebook.
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April 19, 2012 12:56PM
They are pretty good at responding to people's questions, and have had more than a few asking about Glacier Point and Tioga Rd.
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April 19, 2012 01:40PM
I was wondering where the heck the update you were talking about was, and then realized I was on DNC's YosemitePark page and not YosemiteNPS.
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April 20, 2012 01:07PM
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mbear
I didn't even know they started plowing yet.

They certainly have.

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Don't they usually do updates about the plowing on the nps site?

They haven't always been good about doing that.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 16, 2012 07:58AM
I hope y'all are right. I'll be making my first trip to Yosemite May 24-26 and I'd like to take Tioga Pass on the way to Vegas. Made the travel plans without doing any reseach on weather/road closings...classic rookie mistake I guess.
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April 16, 2012 01:03PM
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BamaJuggs
I hope y'all are right. I'll be making my first trip to Yosemite May 24-26 and I'd like to take Tioga Pass on the way to Vegas. Made the travel plans without doing any reseach on weather/road closings...classic rookie mistake I guess.

This year I think you'll have a very good chance of the pass being open by then.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 16, 2012 02:02PM
Once they start plowing, how long does it usually take to open?
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 16, 2012 02:15PM
According to the parks webpage for Tioga plowing they start each year "on or about April 15" aka TODAY. How long it will take them to complete the plowing and open the road is what this little guessing game is all about.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 17, 2012 10:21AM
La Nina is bringing in warm weather this weekend, in the mid-80's in Reno. I assume it will be warm in the park as well. Because of this I am predicting May 1. My nephew is flying in for a trip down there the first week of May, so this is more wishful thinking than an actual prediction, but it doesn't hurt to be optimistic right. Either way we will be heading down there, I just want him to be able to see upper Yosemite.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 16, 2012 10:10AM
Just curious, but was anyone correct in LAST year's guess-a-thon?

I remember being there at 0500 hours on the day it opened and there were so many people, literally camping out there already, that we were the 56th car in.
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April 16, 2012 10:23AM
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tanngrisnir3
Just curious, but was anyone correct in LAST year's guess-a-thon?

I remember being there at 0500 hours on the day it opened and there were so many people, literally camping out there already, that we were the 56th car in.

Someone was correct – after the fact.

(Hindsight is 20/20) wink
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April 16, 2012 01:33PM
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plawrence
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tanngrisnir3
Just curious, but was anyone correct in LAST year's guess-a-thon?

I remember being there at 0500 hours on the day it opened and there were so many people, literally camping out there already, that we were the 56th car in.

Someone was correct – after the fact.

(Hindsight is 20/20) wink
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HikerChicky from The 395 was correct / spot on way before the fact

I swear she must have been peeking at my answers though....

tongue sticking out smiley



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April 16, 2012 01:57PM
I wasn't referring to her prediction... wink
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April 16, 2012 02:01PM
I have no idea what you mean. I just wanted to give credit to hikerchick395.



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Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 25, 2012 11:36AM
Tioga Pass will be open April 27, 2012.
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April 25, 2012 12:48PM
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chris554
Tioga Pass will be open April 27, 2012.
Is that your guess?
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April 25, 2012 06:14PM
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 29, 2012 11:09AM
The Pass is open to bicycles as of April 28, 2012

http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tioga.htm

Jeff...
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
April 29, 2012 09:50PM
So after Tioga has opened to cars, how long does it normally take for Porcupine Creek campground to open?

Btw: Hi everybody .. : ]
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April 30, 2012 07:11AM
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Arendi
So after Tioga has opened to cars, how long does it normally take for Porcupine Creek campground to open?

It's usually the last campground to open. The ground has the dry.
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May 02, 2012 11:34AM
And the winners are: hikerchick395 & chick-on who were only two days off. They predicted May 5 instead of May 7.

(Though I think hikerchick would win a tie-breaker since she predicted a May 5th opening first. wink )


Congratulations to both the Hikerchick and the Chick-on!

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May 02, 2012 02:08PM
What do they win?
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May 02, 2012 02:57PM
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yosemitejim
What do they win?

http://www.ske-art.com/skestuff9/B005HGABDI

Of course
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May 02, 2012 05:04PM
Of course Twinkies. I haven't seen the chocolate filled Twinkies. That is an extra special treat.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
May 02, 2012 02:17PM
They win the dubious privilege to be the ones to start this subject (post) again next spring.
Re: Tioga Pass opening date
May 05, 2012 09:51AM
Any word yet? I am trying to drive up early this year.
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