Re: Tuolumne Meadows High Sierra Camp - Cast your vote

Is the Tuolumne Meadows "lodge" a High Sierra Camp?
Cast your vote now please.

Note that the "lodge" is a series of tent cabins that look strikingly similar to the other 5 High Sierra Camps.
Just because the "lodge" is in the frontcountry shouldn't have a bearing.

The ranger at the TM Wilderness Center has stated it is a HSC.

So... please chime in.

votes for

(you need to sing this...)

High... SierraCamp!
High Sierra
High Sierra
High Sierra
Hiiiiiigh Sierra Camp!

Does it have dorms?

When you are in country (front or back version) you can be at a HSC.
As it is a camp (has canvas tents with the same steel bedframes), is in the Sierra, and is at a higher elevation than Curry Village, Tuolumne must be a HSC.

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The cure for a fallacious argument is a better argument, not the suppression of ideas.
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Frank,
We had a deal!

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Old Dude

I smell a rat! FF's front country has a funny ring to it.

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Old Dude

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mrcondron
I smell a rat! FF's front country has a funny ring to it.

You have to remember that it was the backcountry when the TM site was first established (in fact, it was one of the original HSCs):
http://www.yosemitepark.com/Accommodations_HighSierraCamps_History.aspx

Oh what a tangled web we weave...

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Old Dude

Mike,

You can take solace, however, in knowing that Table Lake has the highest density of mosquitos ever recorded on the planet (ref.: unpublished Iranian spy satellite data).

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szalkowski
You have to remember that it was the backcountry when the TM site was first established

Ah, that's why!

Holy shit!! They've got the gate keeper, the dungeon master, the controller of the force, the spice controller. What's a poor soul to do? I must go to the dark side. I'm moving to Sparks where conspriatorial activity is not allowed..

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Old Dude

You've done it Billy,

To all who read this thread:

A PM to me from bill-e-g admitting he was wrong about there being more than five High Sierra Camps
(start of quote)
Ok. I admit defeat
From: bill-e-g
To: mrcondron
06/08/2009 02:15PM
High.... SierraCamps!
High Sierra
High Sierra
Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh.....
Sierra....
Camps!

Ok. Fine. You win. But it was funnier than heck that that guy sided with me!
(and that frontcountry hambergeusa was deeeee-licious!)


tongue sticking out smiley

(now quit pouting)
(end of quote)


Now go vote.

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Old Dude

Yes, I agree with FF that Tuolumne Lodge must be a Hiiiiigh...SierraCAMP!!!! and so do the rangers! When asked if Tuolumne is included in the Hiiiiiiiigh...SierraCAMPS!!! The rangers answered yes as if it was a known commodity.

Some people skate on thin ice. Sometimes they're surprised and sometimes they're not.

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Old Dude

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mrcondron
Some people skate on thin ice. Sometimes they're surprised and sometimes they're not.

Why, MsCondron! I DO Bee-lieve that you are POUTING!!!!

To make matters worse, Len's post (http://www.yosemitepark.com/Accommodations_HighSierraCamps_History.aspx) strongly suggests that White Wolf is a HSC. n=7

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Frank Furter
To make matters worse, Len's post (http://www.yosemitepark.com/Accommodations_HighSierraCamps_History.aspx) strongly suggests that White Wolf is a HSC. n=7

Anybody remember when the current road got to White Wolf?

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eeek

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Frank Furter
To make matters worse, Len's post (http://www.yosemitepark.com/Accommodations_HighSierraCamps_History.aspx) strongly suggests that White Wolf is a HSC. n=7

Anybody remember when the current road got to White Wolf?

That road is part of the original wagon road that went to the Tioga Mining District:
http://www.yosemite.ca.us/library/tioga_road/map.html

[Yeah, Frank, I noticed that "designation" also. However, it is too far from the other HSCs (easy one-day walking distance for the moderately infirm, without backpack) to really qualify. You will note that the TM site fits in nicely between Glen Aulin and Vogelsang as far as the hiking criterion.]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/10/2009 04:46AM by szalkowski.

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Frank Furter
To make matters worse, Len's post (http://www.yosemitepark.com/Accommodations_HighSierraCamps_History.aspx) strongly suggests that White Wolf is a HSC. n=7

The rangers at the permit desk did indeed include White Wolf in with the discussion of Hiiiiigh....SierraCamps!!!

TM "Lodge" = Curry Village of the North

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Ryno98
TM "Lodge" = Curry Village of the North

TM Campground = KOY (Kampgrounds of Yosemite) Motor Inn

Everyone knows there is a frontcountry... to go along with the backcountry...

http://www.lnt.org/programs/frontcountry.php

Looks like a landslike folks... (although good attempt on that contrived "PM"

Yo old dude Mike,

doooood!
It's obviously a High Sierra Camp.
Four brain cells is even enough to deductify that!

What about the Table Lake High Sierra Camp?

Hello.... Hello....

Anyone out there ACTUALLY do the HSC loop and can comment?

(guess the title should have had Half Dome in it)

I've PMed all uncontaminated forum members and told them to stay away.

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Old Dude

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mrcondron
I've PMed all uncontaminated forum members and told them to stay away.

Excuse me! But that is called "ballot-stuffing" or "un-ballot-stuffing" and is not allowed!

This is a scientific study.

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bill-e-g

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mrcondron
I've PMed all uncontaminated forum members and told them to stay away.

Excuse me! But that is called "ballot-stuffing" or "un-ballot-stuffing" and is not allowed!

This is a scientific study.

Yeah............................

I'm sort of "undecided" on this one, and that's ok. It's not like the people who were "undecided" on Obama vs. McCain...how can you be undecided on that choice? (Not that I'm endorsing either one!) In any case, I'll submit my punchcard ballot with a "swinging door chad" for YES on HSC, but depending on who reads my ballot, it may have to be thrown out.

Or it could be a vote for Al Gore.

Like cthenn I'm undecided. I guess I really don't give a hoot. Sorry, Dale.

HSC's are great for some folks but I do not care for the impact created by the horse and/or mule trains that serve them, especially since they seem to be exempt from trailhead quotas. The fact that money talks on the back country trails makes me frosty.

Jim

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tomdisco
Like cthenn I'm undecided. I guess I really don't give a hoot. Sorry, Dale.

HSC's are great for some folks but I do not care for the impact created by the horse and/or mule trains that serve them, especially since they seem to be exempt from trailhead quotas. The fact that money talks on the back country trails makes me frosty.

Jim

Ppppp....rotest! Did you guys not get the PM's?
ah... I mean... ballot measures in the mail..??

The question was simply "Is TM HSC a HSC?"

But thank you for your consideration. We are counting an additional 2 yes votes.
Right now MR.Condron is sitting in the TM "Lodge"/Tent Cabin alone.

Sweet Victory

Yeah, I'm sitting here rereading and rereading this:

http://yosemitenews.info/forum/read.php?1,13130,13138#msg-13138

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Old Dude

Are tears coming out reading that?

Yawn. Go to work. Did you shave? Got a route for this weekend? Is Tina Going? You might run into Sam up there.

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Old Dude

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bill-e-g
Anyone out there ACTUALLY do the HSC loop...?

Why would anyone ACTUALLY want to?
[Passing the vicinity of even one of the HSCs during the course of a single trip is quite more than adequate.]

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szalkowski

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bill-e-g
Anyone out there ACTUALLY do the HSC loop...?

Why would anyone ACTUALLY want to?
[Passing the vicinity of even one of the HSCs during the course of a single trip is quite more than adequate.]

The people that do it... for many it is their first time in the non-forecountry... and anyone that I have talked
to meeting along the way thinks it's THE cat's meow. (which is why I only say they suck cause of all
of the horse dingles and mule ripping the crapola outta the trail)
One time I told someone along the way that I hated Rafferty trail and explained... and they just loved it...
thought it was the greatest... so sometimes innocence may be better... and I try not to rain on their experience at all...

But what about the White Wolf High Sierra Camp?

1952: Yosemite Park and Curry Company acquires concession rights to White Wolf Lodge and opens it as unit of High Sierra camps in 1953.

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eeek
But what about the White Wolf High Sierra Camp?

1952: Yosemite Park and Curry Company acquires concession rights to White Wolf Lodge and opens it as unit of High Sierra camps in 1953.

The logic noose is slowly tightening on Mr. Condron.

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The cure for a fallacious argument is a better argument, not the suppression of ideas.
-- Carl Sagan

Look you guys, I never said that there weren't 6 or 7 places called High Sierra Camps, I've only said that there are only 5 High Sierra Camps.

By the way, Billy-e-g has become quite handy with Photoshop. Photos to follow.

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Old Dude

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mrcondron
By the way, Billy-e-g has become quite handy with Photoshop. Photos to follow.

What did you two do with Bee?

Dang, I knew we forgot something up there.

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Old Dude

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mrcondron
By the way, Billy-e-g has become quite handy with Photoshop.

I think that we have all noticed that Chick-on's feet are no longer facing toward his tail.

Bee became dessicated because she lost her water up on Dana.
We had to leave her behind. She had 2 larrys of water and had drunk
about 1/2 litre the whole time.
While glissading down the snow on her keester the water bottles
dissapeared in the snow... A gift to Dana... Bee's Nemesis.

Complete with a No Goats sign!