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avatar Crown Point
July 12, 2009 07:38AM
Ok. Give and Take.

Crown Point is just outside the Park Boundry in the NE corner.
About 10 miles from Twin Lakes TH between Snow and Peeler Lakes.
4200 ft. climb from Twin Lakes. Easy class 2 climb up from Snow.

June 28 - looking S-SE


Mule and Burro Pass. Slide Canyon, Sawtooth, Matterhorn.... all the way to the right... Lyell...
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 14, 2009 10:54PM
Well... I thought maybe people would find this interesting....

Sigh...
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 14, 2009 11:25PM
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bill-e-g
Well... I thought maybe people would find this interesting....

Sigh...

What makes you think they didn't?
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 06:19AM
It's a numbers thing.
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 10:14AM
4,200 ft climb in ten miles. What is the trail type on the way up: switchbacks or somewhat direct? (like Dana) Did you have to go through snow fields? Loose rock, boulders, etc., towards the top? What was final elevation?

Busy Bee
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 12:52PM
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Bee
What is the trail type on the way up: switchbacks or somewhat direct? (like Dana)

Ah...Dana doesn't have a real trail.
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 01:30PM
It's pretty real now. All the way to the top.
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 02:19PM
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bill-e-g
It's pretty real now. All the way to the top.

Never been able to trace the original source of the terminology, but this type of trail is generally referred to as a 'use trail.'
[FYI, it is the local burrow of The Order of the Esteemed Marmot that is in charge of maintaining such trails.]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/15/2009 02:41PM by szalkowski.
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 02:44PM
Ignoring the marmots for the moment.

The thing is... this is another instance of a "xcountry" route or "use" trail being in better shape than a
trail the park service still has on the map.

Send the marmots to North Mountain ... that "trail" needs some serious work.

I know many years ago the way up Dana did not have a "trail" the entire way to the top.
I just mentioned that it is "real" now because it is plain to see and is present all the way now...
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 02:47PM
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bill-e-g
Send the marmots to North Mountain ... that "trail" needs some serious work.

Send them to Sierra Point too!
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 08:58PM
Here's the North Mountain trail from earlier this year.
I previously posted a photo with Mike in it standing on one of the logs that
was taken 4 years ago... Not much change in 4 years...

avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 09:05PM
You sure that's not a marmot trail?
avatar Re: Crown Point
July 15, 2009 01:46PM
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Bee
4,200 ft climb in ten miles. What is the trail type on the way up: switchbacks or somewhat direct?
Did you have to go through snow fields? Loose rock, boulders, etc., towards the top? What was final elevation?
Busy Bee

It's a proper trail all the way to Snow Lake. Switchbacks and some flats. Very nice trail.
We did have some snow fields but those are typically gone by July. From Snow Lake up (i.e. off the trail)
it is easy class 2 with gravely sand.
If you zoom in on this you can see the route:
http://picasaweb.google.com/dale.dekeyser/MoMaps#5354690841505472882

The elevation is:
Twin Lakes 7, 100 ft.
Snow Lake 10,100 ft.
Crown Pt. 11,346 ft.

The up from Snow Lake is about 3/4 mile to the summit.
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