Re: Half Dome is not a mountain

I have been going through my photos and half-assed organizing them and remembered that Half Dome is not a mountain, nor is Liberty Cap, nor is Mount Broderick.

I noticed this photo from 2004. You can clearly see the people going up the cables (which aren't as steep as they look when you're on them) but if you look carefully you can see rappellers going off the southeast side of the dome.

Enjoy!

Big Sigh....

And why isn't it?

You know, I'm not really sure why.

Would you call Moro Rock a mountain?

Sentinel Dome is not a mountain. El Capitan is not a mountain. They are big rocks. North Dome? A rock.

Clouds Rest? Probably not a mountain.

Mount Muir, in my opinion, is not a mountain. But it's named Mount Muir. To me it's just a part of Mount Whitney.

There must be an highly debatable definition out there somewhere.

Moro Rock is a lot smaller than Half Dome and isn't anything near the almost 9000 feet Half Dome commands.

Yet, eeek, Half Dome is not considered a mountain.

And why MOUNT Broderick?
Liberty Cap is taller.. ???

Go figure

vince: Yet, eeek, Half Dome is not considered a mountain.


Is this a real conversation, or is someone yanking someone else's chain??? I did not know that there were specs on whether or not a chunk of granite was 'officially' a mountain...or not..?

B

I suppose that just because something could be a mountain it doesn't mean that it has to be called a mountain.

Half Dome Mountain
Mount Half Dome
Half Dome

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Old Dude

Maybe Half Dome is not called a mountain -- a generic term -- because it has a MUCH cooler moniker: DOME!!!

B

This thread reminds me of the "Pluto is no longer a planet" controversy.

Jim

tomdisco wrote:

> This thread reminds me of the "Pluto is no longer a planet"
> controversy.

http://tompaxton.com/audio/pluto_1.mp3

If you want a real laugh, note the vertical drop on Boyne Mountain:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyne_Mountain

This is THE place to go from the Detroit area if you want the ultimate downhill skiing experience.

Bee... it's a dome because... ah... it's ah... a ... dome...

I only responded because the only reason it's not a "mountain" is
because we chose not to call it a mountain.
When is a mountain a mountain?

Pretty much when we call it one.

I'd say they are all mountains.

Sure feels like one...

potato, paTAto... let's call the whole thing off...

Vince, when you make a statement like that, you have the choice of trotting out your credentials as an expert on the subject (presumably a geologist), or cite a reference that supports what you say.

Otherwise, it is just another uninformed opinion that is as useless as all the rest. Or some half-remembered memory from your childhood. Or a troll.

The first give the opportunity to lean, the others just spreads nonsense.

Ken, you made my day.

I didn't know that.


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Old Dude

KenM: >Vince, when you make a statement like that, you have the choice of trotting out your credentials as an expert on the subject (presumably a geologist), or cite a reference that supports what you say.

Otherwise, it is just another uninformed opinion that is as useless as all the rest. Or some half-remembered memory from your childhood. Or a troll.

The first give the opportunity to learn, the others just spreads nonsense.<

ahhhh....a fresh view from a higher peak....I think that I will just keep this post permanently imbedded in "cut and paste" status and dredge it up as needed.

B

According to the link:

Half Dome is a Summit->A Mountain is a Summit->Half Dome is a Mountain...Duh!

B

Bee wrote:

> According to the link:
>
> Half Dome is a Summit->A Mountain is a Summit->Half Dome is a
> Mountain...Duh!

Yep!

And I think you know what it says for Moro Rock.
And you can pick the one in Moro Bay or in Sequoia.

But, hey, at least he got it right when he said there are no
prostitutes in Clark County...

o, wait... that's bollocks too

This is why I do not CCW. I just get too emotional or pissed too often...

Happy Fools Day!

bill-e-g: >This is why I do not CCW. I just get too emotional or pissed too often...<

you might GO POSTAL!!!! (ha! good piece of slang, there)

(oops, my apologies in advance to any postal employees who happen to be readers (but are not mountains)

B

>>>Author: Bee
Date: 04-01-09 21:30

According to the link:

Half Dome is a Summit->A Mountain is a Summit->Half Dome is a Mountain...Duh!


Are you sure?

Vince: >Are you sure?<

didja look at the link, and then follow to the "definition of term" linkette, and then read thru the included items in the (parentheses?) Amongst the included items to be classified as a Summit was a DOME and a Mountain....(this is painfully reminiscent of ALL S are P truth sets in Intro to Logic)

b

Bee,

Don't you even feel that tugging on your leg? Vince got you.

Jim

Ok... to be blatantly clear...

The "big sigh" post was short for "o, great... here we go again...".

After awhile I just give up (see that Patterson HD fiasco thread)

tomdisco: >Don't you even feel that tugging on your leg? Vince got you.<

you are right. Another one of my weak points is that I have trouble telling the difference between fools and people pretending to be fools...I should not deal with either one!!!!!

B

Bee, O Geez. Cmon!
You are giving credit where none is plainly due.



Post Edited (04-02-09 10:30)