Re: Turlock from Half Dome

Details?

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The cure for a fallacious argument is a better argument, not the suppression of ideas.
-- Carl Sagan

Nice shot; looks like one can even see a few stars.
HOWEVER, are you sure that those lights are not from Beautiful Downtown Patterson (or even Alice Springs)?
(Delightfully Yours)
The Beaks

Just read eeek's post about the cables not being up yet..."As a result, the Half Dome cable route and subdome are covered in deep snow"
So, either you are a true mountaineer, or you took this picture last year, or it's photoshoped, or.....



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or....

Perhaps details that cannot be publicly disclosed.

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The cure for a fallacious argument is a better argument, not the suppression of ideas.
-- Carl Sagan

I'd have to say its definitely a fake. But not near as bad as the Half Dome video from Turlock video.

MikeNhike,

Give the fake video some respect. Do you know how long it took to fake about 1700 frames of video?

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Old Dude

I don't understand why everyone is so hard on this idea..I have seen a lot of research (on the internet mind you) from individuals who have went to both sites, photos, and videos etc and I just don't see how a conspiracy to fake this type of thing could stand this long...BUT...I guess I don't believe in it with 100% of my being either....As a lonely boy from Indiana who longs for the Sierra I am really interested in this topic nonetheless!

Lee,
Seriously, you can see El Cap, Half Dome, and many other higher peaks and ridges from the San Joaquin Valley and conversely you can see lots of the valley from these high places in the park. We are having fun with this because of all the fuss over the picture posted a year or so ago taken from Turlock. It has a silo in the foreground. I have posted a short video clip from the Turlock location showing El Cap and Half Dome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFX4LR7-u6Y There are still some skeptics out there though.

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Old Dude



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As you're driving out 120 just past Crane Flat you pass a road on the right that goes up to the Fire Lookout / Helopad, just pass this you get to a high point in the road and start downhill.

There's a few places on this downgrade where you can look to the left and at night see the lights of the Central Valley at night. I imagine the Fire Lookup has an even better view.

If you're ever driving by, and the gate on the road to the Lookout is open, and you've got some time, it might be worth your time to drive up and take a look.

Geez. You guys are something.

It's taken from the Diving Board. It's not fake.

Looking the other way from same spot.
Friday: May 7, 2010

Taken when it was darker. Can see two lights on Big Oak Flat Rd. Some cars seem to have stopped
at the 80% Dome turnout for a bit.

Some folks believe we faked going to the Moon nine times.

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Some folks believe we faked going to the Moon nine times.

Moon? What moon?

If it goes as planned I'll get a shot of Turlock from Sentinel Dome on the 22nd.
(and no, I do not care if GP road is open or not)

For Len, I'll get Patterson too (I did zoom in on the lights from the DB but you
cannot make any distinction between Turlock and Patterson to the west).

Fake??? After all this time (and evidence)....sigh....see what I miss when I get sick!!

I have seen other pix of the valley from Cloud's Rest -- I will ask one of the other guys if I can post it.


Edit reason: Fixed my boo-boo for Billy

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The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/24/2010 05:22PM by Bee.

Valley shot taken from Cloud's Rest



Photo courtesy of Rogue Photonic

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The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.

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Bee
Valley shot taken from Cloud's Rest

Photo courtesy of Rogue Photonic

Wow! LOVE IT! THANKS!
I tried taking one last year atop there but it was a full moon.
Plus I didn't realize that my camera had 60 second exposure at the time.

Bee my pix was taken from The Diving Board.

Actually it looks like he took it during full moon. how?
Sooo cool!

I will ask him to come to our forum for a visit and talk about the pic -- he is an avid avid photog.

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The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.

That image was actually quite simple, it was taken with a Canon 5D Mark 2:

24MM
15 second exposure
ISO3200
F2.8

As I recall it was a full moon or close to it but that is ok for such a short exposure, I had planned to do some star trail photos that night but the moon stopped me.

I have several exposures of this image of different lengths of time but I liked this one the best.

Here is a shot from the next morning:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/roguephotonic/3819278991/in/set-72157622032456212/

I can't wait to spend the night up there again this July! =D

Thanks.

I'll have to try some next full moon. I finally got a camera that has Shutt/App priority.
The ones above were 60 second exposures on "Starry Sky" scene.
Yeah... amateur ... that's ok.

For Bee.
Here's the shot I took from the Board zoomed in.

Mizzzzz Beeee... we gotta get atop El Cap and get peekture there.

Yeah... it's not that exciting... but whatever

Very nice! The dark peek-chure has that "viewed from outer space" quality to it

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The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.

I think I can see a silo.

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Old Dude

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mrcondron
I think I can see a silo.

That's not Turlock - it's Woomera... and that's not a silo.

Well anyway a large shafty thing sticking up from the ground.

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Old Dude

Area 51

I see Old People...

(p.s. Davey ... still waitin fur those recipes ...)

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chick-on
I see Old People...

says the Ancient Chicken.
(Undoubtedly wishing that he was as young, and in as good shape, as they are.)

By end of this year we'll get shots from Sentinel Dome, El Cap, and maybe near top of Mt. Clark.

In all honesty I wish you couldn't see the Central Valley. It takes away from the wilderness feeling.

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Not sure this picture is very convincing but...
You can also see the valley from the ridge before dropping
down into Kibbie Lake. (on the trail that runs from Lake Eleanor to Kibbie).

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chick-on
Not sure this picture is very convincing but...
You can also see the valley from the ridge before dropping
down into Kibbie Lake. (on the trail that runs from Lake Eleanor to Kibbie).

See da UFO?

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chick-on
Not sure this picture is very convincing but...
You can also see the valley from the ridge before dropping
down into Kibbie Lake. (on the trail that runs from Lake Eleanor to Kibbie).

See da UFO?

Dat UFO ting moofed agin!

Goatie, is this the ridge that you and GW (goat whisperer) bushwacked down to Kibbie?

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Bee
Goatie, is this the ridge that you and GW (goat whisperer) bushwacked down to Kibbie?

Yes. It was very late September... wanted to take the East Trail from Eleanor over to Kibbie...
(gate over Cherry dam is closed then)
Expected to see no one the entire trip and I get to the crest of the ridge and see the lights...
Makes wilderness not feel like it.

Hiked back out Kibbie Creek:

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Bee
Goatie, is this the ridge that you and GW (goat whisperer) bushwacked down to Kibbie?

Here's Kibbie from that Ridge. (this is approx 1 mile NE of the trail) (different year):

Turlock is also visible from Turtleback Dome!!!

http://www.nature.nps.gov/air/webcams/parks/yosecam/yoseviewshed.cfm

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Old Dude

On a clear day you can see Half Dome, El Capitan, Clouds Rest, Vogelsang Peak, and many other Yosemite landmarks from the Turlock area. The reverse is also true. I've seen it both ways many times in the 40+ years I've worked in Yosemite.

Bob,
The big stink about the possibility of seeing Half Dome from Turlock has been fun. I don't know if you followed it over the last couple of years but the controversy roared on a couple of the photography forums last year. Fake/Not fake/Fake/Not fake.

The famous picture:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3294080995_82396fbffe.jpg

I've taken video from the "Famous Picture" site with a zoom in and out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFX4LR7-u6Y

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Old Dude

Mike,
Nice video. Are you also the author of the really clear still from the same location? I wanted to use that image on an educational sign about Yosemite snowpack and a couple of people up here said it was fake and we shouldn't use it. I suppose it's better to be skeptical than totally gullible.
Bob

Bob,
Here is the flickr site of the guy that took the picture:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/trimmoos/3294080995/


I think he is a pro or at least a semipro. A very nice guy. Last year I posted that I was going to Hall Road in Turlock to shoot some video of Half Dome and he was there waiting for me. We hung around for a couple of hours but clouds had closed in on Half Dome so we didn't get any decent pictures. I went back the next day and got some video and a few stills but the air was pretty hazy. In March of 2010 the air was a bit cleared thus the video you saw. I'm still waiting for the day when there is snow on Half Dome, the air is crystal clear, I'm available, and I have the inclination. A tough combo!

I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Tony would be thrilled to have that picture used that way along with stated assurances that it authentic. He would probably want it credited also. I don't know his email address.

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Old Dude

RangerBob,

Here is a link to another thread that has maps,trajectories, & mathematical calculations all in support of the photo (go straight to the topos, etc., and ignore all of the bickering -- most of the good stuff is within the first 10 or so postings)

http://www.whitneyportalstore.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=59083&page=0&fpart=1

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The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.

Thanx for the post Bee and Mike. As I read through all these threads that the link leads you to, I could not help but chuckle at the sarcastic post of the guy who says he can see Russia from his house!

Awesome photo.



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Hey Bee,
Thanks for the link! I hadn't seen the panorama before. It's nice to see Mount Clark (one of the most easily identified peaks in the area) in the shot. I have several pictures from the Turlock area myself, but they are pretty fuzzy. I've been trying for years to be there at the right time. The problem is that nice clear days after winter storms are usually declared burn days and visibility decreases rapidly.
Bob

RangerBob,

It has become a running joke amongst us (lower) valley dwellers that we make declarations that we think that it might be "Half Dome Weather". They day that Mike took the video, I was out and about and I realized that I could see snow on both the coastal range ahead of me, and the mountains through my rearview mirror. I made the call instantly, and dispatched Mike the the inconic grain silo.....and the YouTube video was the result!

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The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.

This years model:

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There is nothing like the glow of Turlock early in the morning

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chick-on
This years model:

great photo

Gorgeous! I even enjoyed reading through the old thread again, thanks for the update.