Re: Special weather statement

Special weather statement
National weather service san joaquin valley - hanford ca
1235 pm pst sun nov 6 2011

Caz089>099-070545-
West central san joaquin valley-east central san joaquin valley-
Southwestern san joaquin valley-southeastern san joaquin valley-
Mariposa madera and fresno county foothills-
Tulare county foothills-kern county mountains-
Sierra nevada from yosemite to kings canyon-
Tulare county mountains-indian wells valley-
Southeastern kern county desert-
1235 pm pst sun nov 6 2011

...Dry and warmer through thursday then another weather system
Possible late in the week...

Weather conditions across the central california interior will
Improve monday as a high pressure ridge builds in over the area.
Seasonal temperatures and mostly clear skies will prevail through
Thursday.

In the central and southern san joaquin valley...Ground moisture
From the recent rains may result in the formation of patchy
Ground fog during the early morning hours...Continuing through
Sunrise. Drivers in the central and south valley should be alert
For rapidly changing visibilities in patchy fog...Especially in
Rural areas. Also in the san joaquin valley...Low temperatures
Monday and tuesday mornings will only be in the 30s. In wind
Sheltered outlying areas where the skies clear and fog is not
Present...Lows could dip below 32 degrees with patchy frost for 2
To 3 hours.

The computer forecast models are predicting a significant weather
System to move towards central california by friday. The exact
Track of the storm is still uncertain at this time. The forecast
Models are indicating it may move south of the forecast area.
However...We may still see precipitation this upcoming weekend.

Stay tuned to noaa weather radio...Or monitor our web page at
Weather.Gov/hanford for the latest information...Forecasts...And
Warnings issued by the national weather service.

$$

Sanger

Was wondering when the "Tuolumne Meadows Winter Conditions Updates" will start this season?

I don't think they even go up there until late December.

But what do I know?

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Update: Thinking about it more... I'm certain the Winter condition updates start as early as Dec. 1.
However, Snow Creek Cabin is not unlocked until later. Sometime in mid-Dec. timeframe..
which is why I made the original erroneous statement.

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Thanks for the info. Exactly where is the cabin located? A ranger or two spend the winter there, correct?

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Paris92
Thanks for the info. Exactly where is the cabin located? A ranger or two spend the winter there, correct?

http://www.topoquest.com/place-detail.php?id=1670261

No, you are thinking of the Tuolumne Meadows Ranger Station, which usually has a married pair of rangers there all winter. There is also a bunk room not far away for back country skiers to use.

The Snow Creek cabin hasn't been a ranger station for many years. It is now maintained by volunteers, I believe.

Yes. That is exactly what I was referencing. Are the rangers in the TM station for the winter yet?

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Paris92
Are the rangers in the TM station for the winter yet?

Hard to say. We'll know when we get the first conditions report from them.

Hard to believe they are not up there yet. Maybe they go up when the road closes? Budget cuts?

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Paris92
Hard to believe they are not up there yet. Maybe they go up when the road closes? Budget cuts?

Why is it hard to believe? All their provisions are up there before the first dump of the year.
If possible they probably get dropped off in early December. If not then they will
hike and ski there. It's Thanksgiving week, maybe they spend it up there... but probably they
have extended family they want to spend xgiving with.
Regardless it is still pretty early... there can be little snow up there.
They JUST closed the road for good this year.

Of course you could call the park and ask them.
If I remember next time I see a ranger out in the backcountry I'll ask for you.

Have a nice day

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chick-on
They JUST closed the road for good this year.

Maybe.

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chick-on
They JUST closed the road for good this year.

Maybe.

Yeah. Wow. Looks like it will be open into December. A far cry from 2008
when hiked it in mid Nov. via Snow Creek(it closed before Halloween that year).
But that just reenforces that I wouldn't expect any winter update.
(winter starts Dec. 20th btw)

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Still no rangers at Tuolumne? Wow.

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Paris92
Still no rangers at Tuolumne? Wow.

I don't think it is very surprising at all. The Tioga Road was open this weekend and likely to open up again this week or weekend. As such there is not much to report. Not much snow up there, ski hut not open, etc.

Paris...

Finally you get your TM Winter Conditions Update:
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tmconditions.htm

So the answer is... they do a report when it makes sense... most years it's in December...

(it was Dec 8 last year (2011))

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Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/24/2012 07:39AM by chick-on.

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chick-on

(it was Dec 8 last year (2011))

Don't you mean Dec. 8, 2010?

dangit!

Yeah, it was last last year.
Or the year before last.
Two Decembers ago now.

Or Last Season.

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Still no rangers at Tuolumne? Wow.

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Paris92
Still no rangers at Tuolumne? Wow.

Wha? Huh? They've been up there for at least a month now. And I linked to the report you wanted, no?
Jan 19th, 2012

Here it is again:
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/tmconditions.htm

People may find it interesting to take a look at the high temperatures from
all of last years reports. Nuff said

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Paris92
Still no rangers at Tuolumne?

What makes you think that?

Um, because last year "someone" used to always post them on this blog. Not saying who... Guess I kinda was expecting it here. Ooops, my bad.

I did not see this previously. My mistake. Many thanks for the link.