Quoteeeek QuoteFoTThe 2nd is OUR right. That's debatable. You in a militia? The wording was constructed to be vague on purpose. Well we will find that out real soon.by FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quotemrcondron FoT, Three of the four people that were killed by Stayner were not killed in the park. Two of the tourists, the mother and the visiting friend, were killed in their motel room by Stayner, an employee of the motel. The daughter was killed elsewhere and her body dumped at Don Pedro on highway 120 many miles from Yosemite. Joie Armstrong was subdued by Stayner in her home whichby FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quotemrcondron Then how would carrying a gun in Yosemite have prevented a fate like theirs or even Joie Armstrong's I am a gun toting, arms bearing, multiple gun owning expert marksman. I still can't see the reason for a visitor to carry a firearm into the sanctuary of the park. Like I alluded to before what do you think will happen to a hiker and his/her family if they stumble on to aby FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quotemrcondron I would ask two things of you: 1. How would carrying a loaded weapon in Yosemite prevented the death of those people? I said avoid a fate like them, what would have happened if you hiked into that area while the serial killer is dumping the bodies? 2. Would you be willing to act like a lawyer for a bit and present arguments for both sides of the carry/not carry issue. Iby FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quotemrcondron I have a question. Why would anyone carry a loaded gun in the sanctuary of Yosemite National Park? Enforcement rangers excepted please. To avoid the fate of Carol Sund and Silvina Pelossoby FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quotemrcondron A quick read of California law will narrow the gun toting to people with a license to carry and people while in a car camping campsite. I hope most if not all people in CA with a CCW permit are responsible. California law has pretty severe restrictions on where a gun can be used and under what circumstances. I don't think many guns will be taken into the back country. A CCW perby FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteeeek QuoteFoTIt was one of the concerns about people carrying. No, it wasn't. I was talking to a couple trail crew members who work in Glacier NP and they are most worried about instances when they are bushwhacking in the backcountry and spook a hiker who may have a loaded gun. Several of them have been bear-sprayed and screamed at in such instances where they are rustling in the brush aby FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
QuoteFrank Furter QuoteFoT Why do gun proliferation advocates insist that there are no gun-related problems in the US? So you answer my question with a question? Nice.. To answer your question I don't know of any gun advocate that will say there is no gun-related problems. The actions and intent of the NRA is to promote the idea that guns do not cause injuries-- people cause injuries. Moby FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteeeek QuoteFoTWhy do people always assume the random gun owner is some trigger happy manic that is going to shoot a some strange sound in the bushes? Why do you assume anybody here said that? It was one of the concerns about people carrying. The poster said friends had been maced while startling hikers and they were fearful of now getting shot..by FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Why do gun proliferation advocates insist that there are no gun-related problems in the US? So you answer my question with a question? Nice.. To answer your question I don't know of any gun advocate that will say there is no gun-related problems. People do use guns in nefarious actions. Those people are criminals. Gun owners and hopefully most reasonable people would place the blame on tby FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Why do people always assume the random gun owner is some trigger happy manic that is going to shoot a some strange sound in the bushes?by FoT - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion