And that is what's wrong with our society these days; far too many people think ONLY of themselves. It's like they live in their own little world and those around them are an inconvenience. They actually believe they can speed through the middle of a National Park, with no regard to dozens of other visitors and wildlife, just so they can get to their trailhead and hike faster. They have absolutelby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteenlightphoto Let me just expand on my overly broad statement above about tourists; .. about themselves and their experience to the exclusion or detriment of all else. Thats the truth! Perfect summary for all sides of this "debate".by York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
I appreciate your post Jalan. I think you have mostly captured the points I have tried to make. Yes everyone should attempt to not block the roadways. But to suggest these are "normal" roadways that will never be blocked with wildlife or people seeing wildlife or other events is just pollyanish. And to label everyone stopping as discourteous, idiots, disrespectful, etc. just exempliby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
QuoteGVlog QuoteYorkAll of this rancor for "common sense" and "considerate behavior" totally lacks common sense. Indeed? You seem to be the sole dissenting opinion. So which is the "common" sense here? Yours or all the others? Only dissenting opinion? Really? The common experience is that people stop and slow down for something unique. Rangers stop. Shuttlby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
QuoteAnvanho I know visitors will want to stop dead on a dime right then and there, if they suddenly see Bigfoot humping a buffalo right off to the left ... but honestly, YNP has ample stop n' look pulls here and there ... See that is the type of "unique" event that "of course" visitors are going to stop for. All of this rancor for "common sense" and "considby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
My only guess is your strong reactions to this come from being so jaded with overcrowding and "tourists" at Yosemite. Unfortunately it also seems this irritation has created quite a bit of impatience. Impatience usually leads to speeding through or trying to zip around people who are trying to enjoy the park and the reason it is there. But many of you are lumping together behaviors tby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
I don't think we are in disagreement. The ranger in your situation at Yellowstone wasn't there to make sure the "normal" flow of traffic would go unimpeded. He was there to keep general order and assist drivers and passengers in experiencing one of the great benefits of the Park. In similar situations I have seen the Ranger stop traffic to allow parked vehicles to exit as part of hisby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteeeek QuoteYorkAnd my discussions with Rangers confirm they share my view. So you claim. But we can't hear those discussions and, frankly, I doubt the rangers said what you think they said. Please don't take my word for it if you doubt this. First look at any of the general literature regarding the mission of the National Parks. Secondly review any information regarding driving in the Pby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Szalowski-----I'm not quite sure on the channeling Reagan reference or what that means but methinks you have a skewed view of ranger expectations. I just talked to a ranger to confirm my general experience at parks all over the country. Yes many drivers are idiots. But usually they are the ones that are in a hurry and don't understand that they are in a National Park and should drive accordingby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Again, I want to make sure I am explaining myself correctly. I agree with the first post but follow-up posts expanded the scenario and overstepped the setting of common courtesy. Obviously, parking on the road to go and enjoy recreation is not intended. But I have confirmed with rangers that it is expected people may at times stop on the road to view unique sites including wildlife. Nationalby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
I'm not trying to be obstinate but I read the posts. Why treat the roads in Yosemite like normal roadways? I thought the whole point of lower speed limits and general caution for wildlife etc. is so that people can enjoy the views and certainly stop or slow down when there is something unique to see. Yes you are blocking the road. But it shouldn't be dangerous if people are obeying the speedby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
I'm a bit confused. I thought people were in the National Parks to see things like Bears. Why wouldn't someone want to stop for a few moments if they see a Bear? On the one hand we can't complain when people drive like mad men and zip through the park but on the other hand stop and enjoy the views when there is something unique to see? I fully agree that you shouldn't use the road as a rest sby York - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion