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Confused Brit
July 01, 2011 05:16AM
Forgive me if this is the wrong place / an FAQ etc

I'm a confused british bloke trying to organise a few days in Yosemite.
I understand i'd need a permit (none available) to get to the top of Half Dome. Are permits needed if i go (walk) up the back North Dome or el Cap instead?

I've got a couple of days in September before I need to head back to Mountain View. I was thinking a days hiking and a day bouldering ... any other suggestions
Re: Confused Brit
July 01, 2011 06:21AM
Unless there have been very recent changes that I've not heard about, Half Dome is the only day hike in the Park that requires a permit. I believe that all overnight (i.e., backpacking) trips anywhere in the Park require permits (I've yet to do any backpacking so the latter statement is not from personal experience but I'm pretty sure it's accurate).

Although you'll find many of us in this forum talking about hikes of moderate to extreme obscurity, the general consensus is that a first time visitor to Yosemite (you don't actually SAY it's your first trip but it sounds like it probably is) should do a lot of the basic things (Valley Loop, Tunnel View, one of the main "up-the-wall" hikes (e.g., Yose Falls, Four Mile Trail, Mist Trail), hell, I even went on one of those tram tours on my first visit). If you've got a car, sunrise at Glacier Point is beautiful and wonderfully peaceful (i.e., devoid of crowds) and then take a ride down to the Wawona area (southernmost portion of the park) and see the Mariposa Grove.

If you're very early in September, you'll probably still hit crowds but after Labor Day, things should calm down...especially if you go mid-week (my wife and I will be in the Park for a few days before and a few days after Labor Day so I certainly HOPE things will be calming down by then (although we'll mostly be in areas outside the Valley)).

Scan through the other topics in this Forum. There have been a number of threads asking the "what should I do?" question over the last month or two.

Enjoy your trip, whatever you do!
avatar Re: Confused Brit
July 01, 2011 09:50AM
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cave_troll
I understand i'd need a permit (none available) to get to the top of Half Dome. Are permits needed if i go (walk) up the back North Dome or el Cap instead?

CT,
A permit is needed to go to the top of Half Dome. They way things worked last year was that a ranger was stationed just before "sub dome" and would check for permits. It turned out though that many people would have unused permits as some in their original plan backed out for one reason or another. These unused permits would be in the rangers hands and the ranger would allow people with no permit in hand to use one of them. So if one wanted to take a chance and hike to the sub dome and hope for an unused permit then that would work.
I can't say this system is exactly in place this year but I know someone will post a clarification.

All other day hiking trips or daytime activities in the park require no permits. If you plan on staying overnight anywhere in the park outside of a campground or other lodging you will need to be in the "back country" and must have a wilderness permit.

Here is a link to info about wilderness permits:
http://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/trailheads.htm
When at that site download the "map showing each trailhead" pdf and you will get most of your questions about overnighting in the wilderness answered.



Old Dude
Re: Confused Brit
July 04, 2011 05:41PM
All of the above is correct...and you should certainly consider day-hiking NOrth Dome from Porcupine Flat...a great hike. But even better is Cloud's Rest from Tenaya Lake....



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