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Manly topic #117: camp stoves. Opinions desired. April 24, 2012 01:37PM |
We're making an effort this year to camp/car-camp a LOT more than last year, so we'll be camping in USFS/BLM campgrounds, especially on the East Side around Whitney, Horseshoe Meadows, Onion Valley, Lee Vining Canyon, etc....
After taking stock of all the things we have/need for a comfortable base camp (things one wouldn't take upcountry when backpacking, like ridiculously huge tent, big aluminum framed cots, etc....) I realized that the only cooking gear I have is for backpacking, not camping per se, like JetBoil stuff.
After having owned Coleman's, I'm thinking about this one in particular: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00367PAO0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Seems great for breakfasts, easily frying fish/steaks, etc.. This will not be a stove that will travel more than 100' from a parked Jeep.
Anyone have any experience with this or the other higher-end Colemans or other brands? If so, how was it?
After taking stock of all the things we have/need for a comfortable base camp (things one wouldn't take upcountry when backpacking, like ridiculously huge tent, big aluminum framed cots, etc....) I realized that the only cooking gear I have is for backpacking, not camping per se, like JetBoil stuff.
After having owned Coleman's, I'm thinking about this one in particular: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00367PAO0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Seems great for breakfasts, easily frying fish/steaks, etc.. This will not be a stove that will travel more than 100' from a parked Jeep.
Anyone have any experience with this or the other higher-end Colemans or other brands? If so, how was it?
April 24, 2012 02:36PM |
Don't have experience with the Coleman, but I and others have had very good luck with Weber's Q portable gas griills.
http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/gas-portable/weber-q-120-1
They heat up nicely and grill very predictably. They use a Porcelain-enameled cast-iron grate which to me is a nice plus. And they can use the larger, more economical 20lb propane tanks with an adapter (the adapter sold separately).
You can also purchase a couple of wheeled stands to roll them around if you like:
http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/gas-portable/weber-q-120-1
They heat up nicely and grill very predictably. They use a Porcelain-enameled cast-iron grate which to me is a nice plus. And they can use the larger, more economical 20lb propane tanks with an adapter (the adapter sold separately).
You can also purchase a couple of wheeled stands to roll them around if you like:
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Re: Manly topic #117: camp stoves. Opinions desired. April 24, 2012 02:39PM |
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plawrence
Don't have experience with the Coleman, but I and others have had very good luck with Weber's Q portable gas griills.
http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/gas-portable/weber-q-120-1
They heat up nicely and grill very predictably. They use a Porcelain-enameled cast-iron grate which to me is a nice plus. And they can use the larger, more economical 20lb propane tanks with an adapter (the adapter sold separately).
You can also purchase a couple of wheeled stands to roll them around if you like:
Of COURSE! Weber! Why didn't I think of them?
This bears futher study. Thanks!
April 25, 2012 03:41PM |
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plawrence
Don't have experience with the Coleman, but I and others have had very good luck with Weber's Q portable gas griills.
http://www.weber.com/explore/grills/gas-portable/weber-q-120-1
They heat up nicely and grill very predictably. They use a Porcelain-enameled cast-iron grate which to me is a nice plus. And they can use the larger, more economical 20lb propane tanks with an adapter (the adapter sold separately).
You can also purchase a couple of wheeled stands to roll them around if you like:
I have one of these. It's very easy to grill with.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dqniel/
April 25, 2012 04:51PM |
April 25, 2012 05:04PM |
Talking about oldies-but-goodies, and about one that could easily fit inside of the bear-resistent food lockers, there's the good ol' Hibachi grill, still available on Amazon:
Amazon.com: Marsh Allen 10x18" Cast Iron Hibachi Grill
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2012 06:52PM by plawrence.
Amazon.com: Marsh Allen 10x18" Cast Iron Hibachi Grill
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/03/2012 06:52PM by plawrence.
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Re: Manly topic #117: camp stoves. Opinions desired. April 24, 2012 05:06PM |
this one is great but its heavy, nice to set up at a week long camp spot
April 24, 2012 06:17PM |
This is my little buddy:
Weber 1520 Propane Gas Go-Anywhere Grill
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-1520-Propane-Go-Anywhere-Grill/dp/B00004RALK
$60 including shipping.
Small enough to fit in any bear locker.
Weber 1520 Propane Gas Go-Anywhere Grill
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-1520-Propane-Go-Anywhere-Grill/dp/B00004RALK
$60 including shipping.
Small enough to fit in any bear locker.
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Re: Manly topic #117: camp stoves. Opinions desired. April 25, 2012 08:14AM |
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QITNL
This is my little buddy:
Weber 1520 Propane Gas Go-Anywhere Grill
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-1520-Propane-Go-Anywhere-Grill/dp/B00004RALK
$60 including shipping.
Small enough to fit in any bear locker.
I use this one too. Compact, light, and does the job. It's basically a propane barbecue so it's not too good for boiling water or using a frying pan on.
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Re: Manly topic #117: camp stoves. Opinions desired. April 25, 2012 08:56AM |
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QITNL
This is my little buddy:
Weber 1520 Propane Gas Go-Anywhere Grill
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-1520-Propane-Go-Anywhere-Grill/dp/B00004RALK
$60 including shipping.
Small enough to fit in any bear locker.
Ah, excellent point, and one that I had overlooked.
I could spend most of the day fishing somewhere, cook up a mess of fish, but then what do I do w/a big rig that I can't put in my vehicle if it won't fit a bear locker.
This changes what I'm looking for.
April 25, 2012 09:58AM |
I see several comments about putting the grill in the bear box. If you're concerned about someone stealing it from your
site while you're gone all day, that's one thing (although I've never had a grill stolen either for that matter).
If you're thinking a bear might be attracted to it, that should not be a concern. I've never had any problem with a bear or
raccoon showing any interest in a grill left out, never had one disturbed in the better part of 20 years camping in the Valley,
and while I always clean the grill when finished using it, I'm sure there are some interesting odors left in the grill of salmon,
steaks, sausages, etc.
I think their sniffers are sophisticated enough to distinguish actual food from nothing-in-there-for me!
site while you're gone all day, that's one thing (although I've never had a grill stolen either for that matter).
If you're thinking a bear might be attracted to it, that should not be a concern. I've never had any problem with a bear or
raccoon showing any interest in a grill left out, never had one disturbed in the better part of 20 years camping in the Valley,
and while I always clean the grill when finished using it, I'm sure there are some interesting odors left in the grill of salmon,
steaks, sausages, etc.
I think their sniffers are sophisticated enough to distinguish actual food from nothing-in-there-for me!
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Re: Manly topic #117: camp stoves. Opinions desired. April 25, 2012 02:01PM |
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PineCone
I see several comments about putting the grill in the bear box. If you're concerned about someone stealing it from your
site while you're gone all day, that's one thing (although I've never had a grill stolen either for that matter).
If you're thinking a bear might be attracted to it, that should not be a concern. I've never had any problem with a bear or
raccoon showing any interest in a grill left out, never had one disturbed in the better part of 20 years camping in the Valley,
and while I always clean the grill when finished using it, I'm sure there are some interesting odors left in the grill of salmon,
steaks, sausages, etc.
I think their sniffers are sophisticated enough to distinguish actual food from nothing-in-there-for me!
No, I'm not in the least concerned about someone nicking the grill; it's more the bears.
Given the amount of damage that bears do to cars just going for aromatics like soap/perfume, I'm not willing to risk damage to the vehicle based on a bear's purported ability to differentiate between what's food and what's not (and what's no longer there except in trace amounts).
I don't trust bears.
April 25, 2012 03:36PM |
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April 25, 2012 11:29PM |
April 26, 2012 07:59AM |
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QITNL
This is my little buddy:
Weber 1520 Propane Gas Go-Anywhere Grill
http://www.amazon.com/Weber-1520-Propane-Go-Anywhere-Grill/dp/B00004RALK
$60 including shipping.
Small enough to fit in any bear locker.
I've used that grill for the last decade and a half. Before I bought a house it was my primary grill at my apartment. It's always worked like a champ. Although, as someone else noted, it's not great for just boiling water...
April 26, 2012 08:43AM |
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April 26, 2012 09:33PM |
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oakroscoe
When I didn't feel like carrying a stove, or I ran out of fuel, I've boiled water on an open fire a few times. As long as you don't mind your pot getting blackened, it's not a big deal.
It's probably not a big issue with inefficiency if you're out in the backcountry and can find enough downed wood to just toss more wood on the fire. However, if it's a gas grill then you're paying for the fuel.
I mentioned where I saw coffee pots over an open flame. It was at the Roosevelt Old West Cookout in Yellowstone. Here's someone else's photo of the coffee. It was "cowboy coffee" and it did get rather chunky with little bits of coffee grounds in my cup. I think the whole setup was for show since they set it up carefully balanced with the horseshoe mounted on the top.
April 24, 2012 06:20PM |
I've heard good things about the Weber-Q. We used a Weber Smokey Joe (the small size) charcoal kettle grill for dinners
until about 5 years ago. While staying in Upper Pines in the Fall, an older German couple on their dream retirement vacation
thru the American West for a few weeks (and driving a large rental RV) left behind a full-sized Kingsford charcoal kettle grill
that they had bought here and used for those 2 weeks, before departing Yosemite to fly home. It was still like new! Now,
every year we disassemble that baby for the the trip, and then reassemble it when we arrive for our two week stay in the
Valley!
Works great, and it was free! I've seen a number of other folks with full-sized kettle grills in the campgrounds as well.
For breakfast (coffee, eggs, pancakes, fried Twinkies
etc.) I still rely on my early-1960s trusty Coleman model 413F
liquid fuel camp stove.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2012 06:23PM by PineCone.
until about 5 years ago. While staying in Upper Pines in the Fall, an older German couple on their dream retirement vacation
thru the American West for a few weeks (and driving a large rental RV) left behind a full-sized Kingsford charcoal kettle grill
that they had bought here and used for those 2 weeks, before departing Yosemite to fly home. It was still like new! Now,
every year we disassemble that baby for the the trip, and then reassemble it when we arrive for our two week stay in the
Valley!
Works great, and it was free! I've seen a number of other folks with full-sized kettle grills in the campgrounds as well.
For breakfast (coffee, eggs, pancakes, fried Twinkies
etc.) I still rely on my early-1960s trusty Coleman model 413Fliquid fuel camp stove.
Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/24/2012 06:23PM by PineCone.
April 24, 2012 06:32PM |
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Re: Manly topic #117: camp stoves. Opinions desired. April 25, 2012 06:44AM |
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I have one similar to this, has held up well. Lowes no longer carries the exact one I got, but this is close.
April 25, 2012 08:08AM |
April 25, 2012 10:09AM |
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Jayabrams
Good Topic!
Stick with the basic Coleman Stove!!!!
I wish I had a picture of my beat-up, green Coleman camp stove. It's vintage 1980's and has a nice crust of meals past that have been burnt into its inner skin. Some call it gross, I call it seasoned. The stove has been through hell and fires up every time. Never a repair!
Everyone on this forum has probably owned at least one of these in their lives. I've had two. I still have the old 1970's, white gas version that my dad used with the pump to pressurize the tank. It still works, and I can still get parts for it.
Between that and my little Weber charcoal kettle, I've never needed anything else. Creature of habit, I guess. Don't fix it if it ain't broke...lol
We're like-minded souls!
I will say that the Coleman stoves made years ago in the good ol' USA were made better than the current (flimsier) models made overseas.
I had one I bought new in 1995 that gave me a lot of problems with lighting and maintaining pressure. I then bought an early 1960s model
'new old stock' on eBay, and it has worked like a champ for years now. Heavier steel, better quality parts on the earlier models IMHO.
Here is a photo of the model I have, a 413F, it has that cool retro torpedo-shaped tank as well!
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Re: Manly topic #117: camp stoves. Opinions desired. May 01, 2012 12:29PM |
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tanngrisnir3
We're making an effort this year to camp/car-camp a LOT more than last year, so we'll be camping in USFS/BLM campgrounds, especially on the East Side around Whitney, Horseshoe Meadows, Onion Valley, Lee Vining Canyon, etc....
After taking stock of all the things we have/need for a comfortable base camp (things one wouldn't take upcountry when backpacking, like ridiculously huge tent, big aluminum framed cots, etc....) I realized that the only cooking gear I have is for backpacking, not camping per se, like JetBoil stuff.
After having owned Coleman's, I'm thinking about this one in particular: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00367PAO0/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Seems great for breakfasts, easily frying fish/steaks, etc.. This will not be a stove that will travel more than 100' from a parked Jeep.
Anyone have any experience with this or the other higher-end Colemans or other brands? If so, how was it?
Well, if anyone's interested, I ordered one, but it's this one instead: http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-PerfectFlow-Insta-Start-Grill/dp/B000BPEE4M/ref=sr_1_5?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1335898062&sr=1-5
I figured I could use the difference on manly accessories like full griddle for bacon, cool-looking attachable lamp, etc....
I'll report back after the weekend with results.
May 01, 2012 05:39PM |
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