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avatar San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 26, 2009 06:21PM
San Franciscans will soon have to learn how to ration our precious Hetch Hetchy Reservoir water after a 25-year long deal with twelve other suburban cities expires in June.

http://sfist.com/2009/05/21/san_franciscos_sweet_hetch_hetchy_d.php
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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 26, 2009 09:17PM
The Dam used to be shorter... and quite different looking:

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May 26, 2009 09:20PM
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bill-e-g
The Dam used to be shorter... and quite different looking:




The cure for a fallacious argument is a better argument, not the suppression of ideas.
-- Carl Sagan
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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 26, 2009 09:42PM
When the water is really low you can see the segment of the old road that went to Lake Eleanor.


Old Dude
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May 26, 2009 09:44PM
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mrcondron
When the water is really low you can see the segment of the old road that went to Lake Eleanor.

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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 26, 2009 09:46PM
For a larger image:

http://www.spinics.net/f/dam1-125JPG.html
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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 26, 2009 10:09PM
Certainly don't want a Dam/no Dam discussion...
But here is what could have been... although fat chance we wouldn't have put campgrounds, etc. there:



Chickon Boo
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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 26, 2009 10:12PM
It is what it is. Yes, lets not try to unscramble the egg. Fat chance.


Old Dude
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May 26, 2009 10:19PM
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mrcondron
It is what it is. Yes, lets not try to unscramble the egg. Fat chance.

Besides, there would be a big ugly toilet bowl ring if they drained it.....wink

Bee Cowboy
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May 26, 2009 10:26PM
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bill-e-g
Certainly don't want a Dam/no Dam discussion...

Why not? Are you Chick?
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May 26, 2009 10:30PM
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bill-e-g
Certainly don't want a Dam/no Dam discussion...

Why not? Are you Chick?

I am Chickon Boo Chickon Boo Chickon Boo !!!!!!!!!

I made this point before.... Lake Eleanor... Cherry Lake... many many others...
Remove Eleanor dam first and let nature take over... and see what happens...
in 30 years... if it's not too shabby then revisit it...
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May 26, 2009 11:26PM
Removing Eleanor first for a real test of recovery and rehabilitation could sway me. Unfortunately I won't be here in 60-70 years to see how it plays out.


Old Dude
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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 27, 2009 06:14AM
Of course silly... The water in Don Pedro is SOOO much warmer.


NOT!
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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 26, 2009 10:26PM
Maybe "Mr. Clean Toilet Bowl Cleaner" would do the trick.

Flush it down and... wa la!... the trees are back... the 5000 cubic yards of sand they scraped out...
and all the debris they threw in there... all gone...
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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 27, 2009 05:51AM
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eeek
San Franciscans will soon have to learn how to ration our precious Hetch Hetchy Reservoir water after a 25-year long deal with twelve other suburban cities expires in June.

Is there any difference between the water in Hetch Hetchy and Don Pedro??


The cure for a fallacious argument is a better argument, not the suppression of ideas.
-- Carl Sagan
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May 27, 2009 12:56PM
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Frank Furter
Is there any difference between the water in Hetch Hetchy and Don Pedro??

Gravity.
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May 27, 2009 12:59PM
You know, it might be better to be left the vision of with how Hetch Hetchy was rather than what it would look like after the dam is removed. Like visiting an old girl friend 40 yrs later.


The cure for a fallacious argument is a better argument, not the suppression of ideas.
-- Carl Sagan
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May 27, 2009 06:51AM
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May 27, 2009 06:52AM
4 Miles upstream of the dam:
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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
May 27, 2009 06:53AM
After they cut all the trees down:
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June 01, 2009 10:40PM
Drain the water and the trees will grow back!
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June 02, 2009 06:49AM
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eeek
Drain the water and the trees will grow back!

The thing they do have going is that they didn't go and blast the crapola
out of the rock "protrusion" that exists between Kolana and Wapama.

Still think drain Eleanor first as experiment. Hmm... come to think of it
there have been dams removed in Washington or Oregon... what is going on there?
If only I didn't have a "real" job...
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avatar Re: San Francisco's Sweet Hetch Hetchy Deal Changes in June
June 02, 2009 07:29AM
There is a dam being removed in Montana, not a pretty sight or site:
http://www.meic.org/mining/mine_cleanup/milltown-dam

The Milltown Dam has toxic sediment issue to deal with. Interesting that they built a rail spur just like for the construction of Hetch Hetchy.


The cure for a fallacious argument is a better argument, not the suppression of ideas.
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