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avatar You call this a trail?
October 15, 2010 03:59PM
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 15, 2010 05:32PM
Looks good to me.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 15, 2010 06:32PM
Re: You call this a trail?
October 15, 2010 06:06PM
Looks better than a lot of the coastal trails in the Ventana Wilderness.
Re: You call this a trail?
October 16, 2010 08:11AM
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AlmostThere
Looks better than a lot of the coastal trails in the Ventana Wilderness.

Roger that. * insert worn out joke about looking up 'bushwhacking' in the dictionary, finding pics of etc...... *
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 23, 2010 08:59PM
It was fun going up this one as fast as I could when the rain hit!


http://yosemitephotos.net/main.php/v/grand-canyon/sh-dscn5723.jpg.html
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 01:39PM
One of several downed trees blocking a trail in the San Jacinto Wilderness:


http://yosemitephotos.net/main.php/v/trails/needs-work/sh-dsc_0016.jpg.html

(At least this one was easy to walk around.)
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 02:00PM
We did a very short hike at Russian Gulch (Mendocino) a couple of years ago, where the trail appears to have been let-go for several years. I haven't had to scramble over, under and along so many trees or physically push my way through such thick vegetation before. It was an adventure. Made the paved trails in the rest of the park seem boring.

Sadly, all pictures of our adventure were lost in the epic server crash of 2008.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 02:56PM
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 04:53PM
I was going to post this trail as probably the most deadfall laden in the park. Any guesses as to which trail it is?



Old Dude



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/31/2010 04:53PM by mrcondron.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 04:59PM
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mrcondron
I was going to post this trail as probably the most deadfall laden in the park. Any guesses as to which trail it is?

Does it have anything to do with a certain lake?
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:15PM
No.



Old Dude
Re: You call this a trail?
July 21, 2015 11:17AM
wish i had taken some photos of the "trail" to kibbie from the Eleanor side...barely maintained nowadays. Even ran into a ranger who seemed lost lol
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:31PM
Can't remember name - is it one on the south side of Hetch Hetchy? I remember passing through something like that on my way back from Smith Peak several years ago.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:34PM
More obscure than that.



Old Dude
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:21PM
At least it's flat.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:28PM
700' up in seven miles.



Old Dude
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:26PM
From Tioga Road, not too far past Crane Flat?
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:31PM
No. Major hint: Old roadbed.



Old Dude
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:35PM
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mrcondron
No. Major hint: Old roadbed.

Big Oak Flat?
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:44PM
Maybe this will help:



Old Dude
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
October 31, 2010 05:46PM
It ends at an old lookout.



Old Dude
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
November 01, 2010 07:49PM
Trail to North Mountain out of Miguel Meadow.



Old Dude
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
November 01, 2010 09:18PM
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eeek

http://yosemitephotos.net/main.php/v/trails/pavil/sh-dscn5431.jpg.html

The "unmaintained trail" that follows the Old Tioga Road route between the Yosemite Creek Campground and the Porcupine Flat Campground is also a fun hike that is in the process of being extensively reclaimed by Mother Nature.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/01/2010 09:20PM by szalkowski.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
November 02, 2010 10:39AM
Pretty sure we posted some pix of that trail b4 too.
My opinion on these trails... if the park service has decided that
they are not going to maintain them anymore they should take
them off the big park map they give to visitors.

One of my favorite memories... is coming in to McGee Lake and
the trail crew is sweeping the trail of pine needles...



Chick-on is looking at you!
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
November 21, 2010 12:50PM
It's in there somewhere:

avatar Re: You call this a trail?
November 21, 2010 05:49PM
This is where the switchbacks are... so... you pretty much want to
go straight up the rocks at this point until you see the rock wall
still standing for one of the switchbacks. once you're on that
rock wall then it's pretty much due east from there... at least that
is more or less what I recall.
I take it you stopped at this point... ???



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avatar Re: You call this a trail?
November 21, 2010 08:15PM
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chick-on
I take it you stopped at this point... ???

I thought I was out of time at that point. Turned out I had another 30 minutes before I needed to turn around but didn't know it because my camera clock was still set to PDT. (sigh)
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
December 12, 2010 09:07AM
You gotta deal with the cards your dealt:





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avatar Re: You call this a trail?
December 24, 2010 06:52PM
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
December 25, 2010 05:41PM
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eeek

Looks thirsty.eye rolling smiley
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
December 25, 2010 05:59PM
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tomdisco
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eeek

Looks thirsty.eye rolling smiley

It was muddy.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 08:55AM
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 05:43PM
That looks a WHOLE lot better than this:

(taken by Canolonian Burrito)



Chick-on is looking at you!
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 06:14PM
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chick-on
That looks a WHOLE lot better than this:

Maybe. But the poop doesn't have quite the same slip coefficient.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 06:18PM
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eeek
Maybe. But the poop doesn't have quite the same slip coefficient.
But the emotional cost of slipping on the snow is much less than that of slipping on the poop. And this particular snow picture doesn't look especially steep, reducing the physical cost.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 06:41PM
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ttilley
But the emotional cost of slipping on the snow is much less than that of slipping on the poop.

No, but that's not snow—it's ice.

Quote

And this particular snow picture doesn't look especially steep, reducing the physical cost.

There wasn't a lot of exposure. But a slide down would not have been much fun.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 06:22PM
Now I know why Olde Dude is bow legged.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 06:42PM
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tomdisco
Now I know why Olde Dude is bow legged.

I thought it was from long horned marmot riding at the rodeo.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 06:43PM
That's NOT Old Dude!



Old Dude
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 06:47PM
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mrcondron
That's NOT Old Dude!

Who is it?
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 07:11PM
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eeek
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mrcondron
That's NOT Old Dude!

Who is it?

That's me silly. (simulating adding to the collection)

Exhibit P of why I despise horses on hiking trails.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 07:40PM
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bill-e-g
That's me silly.

You're in the Ministry of Silly Walks?
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 16, 2011 04:56PM
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mrcondron
That's NOT Old Dude!

WHAT? I thought I would recognize that back side anywhere from all of bill-e-g's photos.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 07:41PM
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 15, 2011 09:20PM
One word: Spikies

Problem solved.

And yes, bill-e is sill-e.

Chick-on is looking at you!



Chick-on is looking at you!
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 16, 2011 04:36AM
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chick-on
One word: Spikies

Well, one of us didn't need them.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 21, 2011 07:23PM
Would you prefer this:


Feel free to show anyone this foto when they say "I wanna hike blah blah blah in the snow blah blah blah".

Uh huh. Sure you do.



Chick-on is looking at you!
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 21, 2011 07:54PM
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chick-on
Would you prefer this:


Feel free to show anyone this foto when they say "I wanna hike blah blah blah in the snow blah blah blah".

Uh huh. Sure you do.

Somebody didn't believe the weather forecast?
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 21, 2011 08:20PM
Bill-e-g and The Goat Whisperer went up to Devils Dance Floor on purpose. Sunday and Monday, after the snow dropped.



Old Dude
Re: You call this a trail?
February 16, 2011 09:41AM
More on this topic from our website---in the section called Finding your Way:

http://sites.google.com/site/backpackthesierra/home/general-information/finding-your-way



yeah. there are some ugly trails out there. And some wonderful ones. And as long as you are in the Sierra, they all lead somewhere pretty cool.



Check our our website: http://www.backpackthesierra.com/
Or just read a good mystery novel set in the Sierra; https://www.amazon.com/Danger-Falling-Rocks-Paul-Wagner/dp/0984884963
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 16, 2011 11:14AM
You completely missed sawn logs. In most of Yosemite they're how you can easily find the trail when it's covered in snow.

And we 110% disagree on cairns. And your picture shows why we hate them. What you need a cairn for on North Dome?
Myself, like many rangers out there (we've asked) kick every one we see over and scatter the rocks.
Can't tell you how many we've seen on trammeled trails.... or along a stream...

Sigh



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avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 16, 2011 01:26PM
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chick-on
You completely missed sawn logs. In most of Yosemite they're how you can easily find the trail when it's covered in snow.

You can also sometimes see where the small limbs are missing from trees along the trail.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
February 16, 2011 01:31PM
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chick-on
You completely missed sawn logs. In most of Yosemite they're how you can easily find the trail when it's covered in snow.


Liquid, as well as solid, snow.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/16/2011 01:31PM by szalkowski.
Re: You call this a trail?
February 16, 2011 03:59PM
You're right Bill....those sawn logs are a key part of trail finding in the snow!

And I know what you mean about cairns. They are often unnecessary and almost always over done on normal trails. But I like to think some of them, like the blazes on trees, have been around for a long time...and mark a path used by those who came long before me.



Check our our website: http://www.backpackthesierra.com/
Or just read a good mystery novel set in the Sierra; https://www.amazon.com/Danger-Falling-Rocks-Paul-Wagner/dp/0984884963
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February 16, 2011 04:04PM
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balzaccom
And I know what you mean about cairns. They are often unnecessary and almost always over done on normal trails.

These weren't needed:

Re: You call this a trail?
March 28, 2011 07:51PM
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eeek
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balzaccom
And I know what you mean about cairns. They are often unnecessary and almost always over done on normal trails.

These weren't needed:

This was:

Cairn marker

An eight foot duck, visible from a mile away - showed us where we needed to be to get to where the official trail started. Alongside Columbine Lake after crossing Sawtooth Pass, the land of steep scree and talus...

Cripes. Need to fix photo size somehow...

Aw, nevahmind, I'll just make it a link.



Edited 4 time(s). Last edit at 03/28/2011 07:55PM by AlmostThere.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
March 28, 2011 08:07PM
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AlmostThere
An eight foot duck, visible from a mile away - showed us where we needed to be to get to where the official trail started.

Or a small duck to show me the obvioius:


http://yosemitephotos.net/main.php/v/trails/ryan/sh-dsc_0942.jpg.html
Re: You call this a trail?
March 28, 2011 08:11PM
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eeek
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AlmostThere
An eight foot duck, visible from a mile away - showed us where we needed to be to get to where the official trail started.

Or a small duck to show me the obvioius:


http://yosemitephotos.net/main.php/v/trails/ryan/sh-dsc_0942.jpg.html

Reduckulous!
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
March 28, 2011 06:21PM
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
May 01, 2014 02:01AM
At least it has an awning:


http://yosemitephotos.net/main.php/v/grand-canyon/sh-dscn3565.jpg.html



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 05/01/2014 02:02AM by eeek.
avatar Re: You call this a trail?
May 01, 2014 10:19AM
I wholeheartedly agree with removing unnecessary cairns (as we call them here in New England) particularly in the Sierra where you can plot a fanciful course almost as far as the eye can see. But...in the White Mountains of NH, they can be a godsend at elevation when you can't see 10 feet in front of your face because the cloud deck has obscured the trail. Many a time have I thanked those yellow rock capped cairns along the Gulfside crossing the Presidentials.



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