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avatar Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
January 31, 2009 03:24AM
Yosemite National Park Announces Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan Environmental Assessment
Date: January 30, 2009

Yosemite National Park is announcing the public scoping period for the Scenic Vista Management Plan Environmental Assessment (EA). Public scoping comments will be used to assist the park in developing a range of reasonable and feasible project alternatives that meet the purpose and need, including a no action alternative, and then analyzing the environmental effects of each alternative. A 30-day public scoping period for this EA will open on February 12, 2009 and will extend through March 13, 2009. Written comments should be postmarked no later than March 13, 2009.

Yosemite National Park was originally set aside for preservation due to its outstanding scenery. In 1851, Dr. Lafayette Bunnell, one of the first Europeans to gaze on Yosemite’s beauty, described the supreme grandeur of Yosemite Valley: "...the clouds...partially dimmed the higher cliffs and mountains. This obscurity of vision but increased the awe with which I beheld it, and as I looked, a peculiar exalted sensation seemed to fill my whole being."

Millions of modern-day explorers have experienced this same view. Today, we call it Tunnel View. It’s just one of many iconic views and vistas for which Yosemite is famous.

The purpose of the Scenic Vista Management Plan is to:

Protect Yosemite’s historic viewsheds and the natural processes that created them.

Preserve the historic & cultural contexts in which the viewpoints were created.

Restore visitor use opportunities associated with lost vistas.
Where historic viewpoints cannot be rehabilitated, identify potentially new views or vistas.

Restore or maintain vistas by restoring natural species composition, structure, and function to systems or by using traditional American Indian management practices.

A public open house will take place on February 25, 2009 from 1pm to 4pm in the Valley Visitor Center Auditorium in Yosemite Valley. Park Admission fees will be waived for those attending the open house.

Comments can be submitted at public meetings, by mail, fax, email, and through the Planning, Environment, and Public Comment (PEPC) commenting system. Comments may be submitted by the following means:

Mail:
Superintendent
Attn: Scenic Vista Management Plan
P.O. Box 577
Yosemite, CA 95389

Phone: 209/379-1365; Fax: 209/379-1294

Visit online: http://www.nps.gov/yose/parkmgmt/vista.htm

Web: A new way to submit comments is available online. It’s called PEPC (Planning, Environment, and Public Comment). Access the site at http://parkplanning.nps.gov/yose.

avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 01, 2009 11:03AM
The vista link didn't work above.

Just curious.
What exactly is:
"traditional American Indian management practices"??

By the way, the new Tunnel View is a huge improvement.
Very very nice. I take it some of this is to cut some trees down to
provide better views. I'm all for that. Just take a look at tunnel view
before and after... it's worth it...
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 01, 2009 11:33AM
I think it involves burning overgrowth.





Old Dude
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 01, 2009 12:52PM
bill-e-g wrote:

> The vista link didn't work above.

Looks like the press release got out before they put the page up. Perhaps it'll be there in a day or two.

avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 03, 2009 04:09PM
Link still no worky.

Still wondering what "traditional American Indian management practices" are.

No disrespect but if it "involves burning overgrowth" then I need to tell
my dad that he has been practicing it for ages.
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 03, 2009 06:54PM
Native American
Land-Use Practices and
Ecological Impacts


"During a span of 10,000 years or more, Native Americans in the Si-
erra Nevada were sustained by hunting and fishing, gathering, lithic
quarrying, and trading. To meet their requirements for firewood, fish
and game, vegetal foods, craft supplies, and building materials, the
native peoples of the Sierra managed biotic resources intensive-
ly, with significant ecological and evolutionary consequences. The
distribution, structure, composition, and extent of certain plant com-
munities, for example, were shaped by burning, pruning, sowing,
weeding, tilling, and selective harvesting."

(later in the same article)

"Resource management by Native Americans in the Sierra Ne-
vada bioregion was long term and widespread, producing
ecological and evolutionary consequences in the biota (Black-
burn and Anderson 1993). Therefore, many ecosystems in the
Sierra are not self-maintaining islands that require only pro-
tection to remain in a “pristine” state. There is currently an
ecological “vacuum,” or disequilibrium, in the Sierra Nevada
resulting from the departure of Native Americans from man-
aging these ecosystems."



http://66.102.1.104/scholar?hl=en&lr=&q=cache:y3k1W5JmZm0J:nature.berkeley.edu/wfrg/main/lecture01/Anderson.pdf+traditional+American+Indian+management+practices.


One of the funnier aspects of how people misinterpret everything related to Native Americans is that they automatically assume that indians were in complete harmony with nature as it was, disturbing and changing very little about the environment.

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Post Edited (02-03-09 23:04)



The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 07:20AM
Thanks Bee. I guess they just wanted to sound
like they weren't just hacking trees and vegetation down to get a view.
Or maybe they are going to cut them down little by little...
Still waiting for the doc.

>One of the funnier aspects of how people misinterpret everything related to Native Americans is that they automatically
>assume that indians were in complete harmony with nature as it was, disturbing and changing very little about the environment

o, don't worry, it was the white man's fault
the white man is to blame for everything

overpopulation - white man
high gas prices - white man
low gas prices - white man
unemployment - white man
and, of course.... wait for it...

global warming - vince (white man)

smiling smiley

as mulder says: the truth is out there

good luck finding it



Post Edited (02-04-09 07:36)



Everything I know I learned from Chick-on is looking at you!
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 10:00AM
bill-e-g wrote:

> o, don't worry, it was the white man's fault
> the white man is to blame for everything
>
> overpopulation - white man
> high gas prices - white man
> low gas prices - white man
> unemployment - white man
> and, of course.... wait for it...
>
> global warming - vince (white man)

Nah. The Peoples Republic of China is now the largest nation in production of CO2 emissions. The US is #2. At this point I would think India isn't far behind. It's not the white man. It's all men (an women).
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 08:24AM
bill-e-g :>>o, don't worry, it was the white man's fault
the white man is to blame for everything<<

We used to laugh (boyfriend grew up on Rez) about how all the "indian lovers" used to sanitized native american history.

>>overpopulation - white man
high gas prices - white man
low gas prices - white man
unemployment - white man
and, of course.... wait for it...

global warming - vince (white man)<<

heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh!

>>as mulder says: the truth is out there

good luck finding it<<

I miss THE LONE GUNMEN!!!!!

B
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 01:42PM
I KNOW that Vince is responsible for global warming:
I've seen it several times on the internet recently.
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 02:38PM
szalkowski wrote:

> I KNOW that Vince is responsible for global warming:
> I've seen it several times on the internet recently.

It is on youtube?

avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 03:30PM
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 03:31PM
No it isn't.
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 03:32PM
Yes it is.
avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 04:33PM
I think they should rehabilitate this:



avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 04:34PM
Is that Hiram Gummer in the wagon?

avatar Re: Public Scoping for the Scenic Vista Management Plan
February 04, 2009 05:28PM
Vince:>>I think they should rehabilitate this<<

A few bags of cement and a couple cans of paint outta do it!

B
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