Is there an official (or unofficial) way of getting to the top of El Cap hiking west from the top of the Yosemite Falls trail. One resource casually mentioned "Hike west toward El Cap from the top of the Yosemite Fall trail", but once again, the two trail books that I have do not mention this junction. I asked someone about it in the valley, and he mentioned that there was an "unimproved" gravelly trail that went to El Cap. Anyone know?
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Re: Hiking to El Cap via Yosemite Falls trail
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Sierrafan wrote:
> My map shows 3.5 miles from the trail junction to the top of El
> Cap (4+ if you take the Eagle Peak spur. Add that to about 3.8
> from Camp 4 to the junction. For a dayhike from the valley,
> that's a respectable hike, (~15mi.) especially when you
> consider the upper falls trail. A lot of people start out
> planning to go to the top of the falls, and end up with
> Columbia Rock or the Upper falls base view as their limit, as
> it's a very "up" and rocky trail.
I tried that back in Dec 2005 with the intent to get to the bridge. It was raining and unseasonably warm (high 40s to low 50s). I was advised by a ranger that it would be best done wearing boots with ankle support. I did it with Gore-Tex trail runners; I've since learned how to choose more appropriate clothing for the conditions. I think I only made it halfway and well past Columbia Rock, but I started late in the day and made the mistake of wearing cotton clothing; it was a long-sleeve cotton T-shirt covered with a Gore-Tex shell, cotton socks, and jeans covered with waterproof-breathable rain/snow pants. I didn't get very wet from the outside, but I was clammy and miserable from the wet cotton. I didn't encounter any snow since I didn't get high enough. I saw one groups that was worse off than I was, including someone attempting it in leather-soled shoes. His son was gung-ho about it telling me that they were going to make it to the top. Well - I passed them, gave up halfway, and never saw them in either direction. I'm guessing they bailed.
I wasn't really in great shape and I had reservations in Reno that night. I actually went to Hetch Hetchy just before closing time before driving to Reno through a snowstorm. The drive to Hetch Hetchy was surreal, with sun, rain, snow, and sun again in the stretch of five minutes.
I managed it in Feb 2007, although I'd learned to wear poly clothing. I actually managed it with nylon pants and no gaiters (probably should have brought them along) postholing through the snow on the various paths near the top. I got some great shots from the bridge. The worst part for me was the descent. There was patchy snow all over the trail, and I kept on slipping on the granite. I think I fell on my butt at least three times.
> My map shows 3.5 miles from the trail junction to the top of El
> Cap (4+ if you take the Eagle Peak spur. Add that to about 3.8
> from Camp 4 to the junction. For a dayhike from the valley,
> that's a respectable hike, (~15mi.) especially when you
> consider the upper falls trail. A lot of people start out
> planning to go to the top of the falls, and end up with
> Columbia Rock or the Upper falls base view as their limit, as
> it's a very "up" and rocky trail.
I tried that back in Dec 2005 with the intent to get to the bridge. It was raining and unseasonably warm (high 40s to low 50s). I was advised by a ranger that it would be best done wearing boots with ankle support. I did it with Gore-Tex trail runners; I've since learned how to choose more appropriate clothing for the conditions. I think I only made it halfway and well past Columbia Rock, but I started late in the day and made the mistake of wearing cotton clothing; it was a long-sleeve cotton T-shirt covered with a Gore-Tex shell, cotton socks, and jeans covered with waterproof-breathable rain/snow pants. I didn't get very wet from the outside, but I was clammy and miserable from the wet cotton. I didn't encounter any snow since I didn't get high enough. I saw one groups that was worse off than I was, including someone attempting it in leather-soled shoes. His son was gung-ho about it telling me that they were going to make it to the top. Well - I passed them, gave up halfway, and never saw them in either direction. I'm guessing they bailed.
I wasn't really in great shape and I had reservations in Reno that night. I actually went to Hetch Hetchy just before closing time before driving to Reno through a snowstorm. The drive to Hetch Hetchy was surreal, with sun, rain, snow, and sun again in the stretch of five minutes.
I managed it in Feb 2007, although I'd learned to wear poly clothing. I actually managed it with nylon pants and no gaiters (probably should have brought them along) postholing through the snow on the various paths near the top. I got some great shots from the bridge. The worst part for me was the descent. There was patchy snow all over the trail, and I kept on slipping on the granite. I think I fell on my butt at least three times.
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Re: Hiking to El Cap via Yosemite Falls trail March 12, 2009 10:26AM |
Ah yes, this brings back memories... did this last year in early May as a replacement hike up the 4-mile trail, which was still closed. Hot, and dry as a bone up Yosemite Falls, then 100 feet over the rim, 4 feet of hard packed snow. Went the whole way in just hiking boots. I had never hiked that trail before, so we were 100% reliant on my GPS to navigate the "trail". One of the most challenging yet fun hikes I've ever done.
BTW, if you have a GPS, I have posted a track for this route at http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=143759
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BTW, if you have a GPS, I have posted a track for this route at http://wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=143759
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mcondron>The old roadbed is not shown on newer NPS maps but is shown on many other maps, especially older ones.<
i have my dads old map book and it DOES list Old Stage Coach Road! Did you start from Yosemite Creek Campgrounds? One of my references says that this cuts off 3 mi and one lousy stream crossing. I am liking this option the best, because I dont see any purpose in hiking up and down the valley floor TWICE. I think that I have at least made this decision: hike it as an out and back(minus the YF trail exit). It sounds like the trail from Yosemite Creek TO YF falls and back is a better entrance/exit. Starting from the campground, it looks like a 13 mile out/back with the approx 3+ mile addition of Eagle Peak. As long as it stays in the +-20mi I should be okay (I finished Halfdome in a day with daylight to spare during the same time of year)
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The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.
i have my dads old map book and it DOES list Old Stage Coach Road! Did you start from Yosemite Creek Campgrounds? One of my references says that this cuts off 3 mi and one lousy stream crossing. I am liking this option the best, because I dont see any purpose in hiking up and down the valley floor TWICE. I think that I have at least made this decision: hike it as an out and back(minus the YF trail exit). It sounds like the trail from Yosemite Creek TO YF falls and back is a better entrance/exit. Starting from the campground, it looks like a 13 mile out/back with the approx 3+ mile addition of Eagle Peak. As long as it stays in the +-20mi I should be okay (I finished Halfdome in a day with daylight to spare during the same time of year)
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The body betrays and the weather conspires, hopefully, not on the same day.
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Bee wrote:
> BTW Clouds Rest is also on my list: Sunrise Lakes Trailhead and
> back (14.4 miles) I am really excited about this one.
Half Dome viewed from Clouds Rest.
The view facing north is incredible too. I'll try and upload one of my photos I took.
> BTW Clouds Rest is also on my list: Sunrise Lakes Trailhead and
> back (14.4 miles) I am really excited about this one.
Half Dome viewed from Clouds Rest.
The view facing north is incredible too. I'll try and upload one of my photos I took.
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I promised a picture pointing north from Clouds Rest. The original is pretty large, so here's a thumbnail. If you want to click on it, the original is pretty large. In the background there's Tioga Road, and I'm pretty sure that's May Lake. I wasn't alone, but there weren't anywhere near the number of people I saw on Half Dome.
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Re: Hiking to El Cap via Yosemite Falls trail March 14, 2009 05:27AM |
It's Tenaya Lake... not May.
The creek can be a good 20-30 ft. wide in spring.
In fall before any storm has come through:
(the rocks in the picture above are for walking across)
The creek can be a good 20-30 ft. wide in spring.
In fall before any storm has come through:
(the rocks in the picture above are for walking across)
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I did the Yosemite Falls hike last year about 2/3 of the way to the top before the weather got too bad to continue. Even with the POURING rain the trail was in good enough condition for me to feel safe. I'd say it must have improved a lot since fifteen years ago In fact, there were actually people working on it the day I was there; they had the heavy equipment out and were cutting and placing rocks in a few different spots.
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dqniel wrote:
> I did the Yosemite Falls hike last year about 2/3 of the way to
> the top before the weather got too bad to continue. Even with
> the POURING rain the trail was in good enough condition for me
> to feel safe. I'd say it must have improved a lot since
> fifteen years ago In fact, there were actually people
> working on it the day I was there; they had the heavy equipment
> out and were cutting and placing rocks in a few different
> spots.
There was a major slide there, but I don't know if it was before or after '15 years ago'. It's where you see the new switchbacks and trail work just above Columbia rock, and it's still pretty barren there.
I think it's pretty safe as long as you stay on-trail. First time I went up was in a February, and when I got nearly to the top there was too much ice and snow on the trail, and I was glad I turned back. I wouldn't have had a clue where to go at the top anyway, as when there's fresh snow there's no way to tell where the trail is unless you know it really well.
Gary
Yosemite Photo Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/roberthouse/yo
> I did the Yosemite Falls hike last year about 2/3 of the way to
> the top before the weather got too bad to continue. Even with
> the POURING rain the trail was in good enough condition for me
> to feel safe. I'd say it must have improved a lot since
> fifteen years ago
In fact, there were actually people> working on it the day I was there; they had the heavy equipment
> out and were cutting and placing rocks in a few different
> spots.
There was a major slide there, but I don't know if it was before or after '15 years ago'. It's where you see the new switchbacks and trail work just above Columbia rock, and it's still pretty barren there.
I think it's pretty safe as long as you stay on-trail. First time I went up was in a February, and when I got nearly to the top there was too much ice and snow on the trail, and I was glad I turned back. I wouldn't have had a clue where to go at the top anyway, as when there's fresh snow there's no way to tell where the trail is unless you know it really well.
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Yosemite Photo Galleries: http://www.pbase.com/roberthouse/yo
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(the thing about internet is that you cannot mask ignorance by standing back a bit and observing the locals before you open yer trap and remove all doubt)
But all you really unmasked was the failures of a certain book.
Cringe...thank you for the words...Cringe...did we have to...cringe...revive this thread in all its ignorant glory...cringe
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did we have to...cringe...revive this thread in all its ignorant glory...cringe
Well, we wouldn't want it to be lost would we?
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did we have to...cringe...revive this thread in all its ignorant glory...cringe
Well, we wouldn't want it to be lost would we?
Can we burn it??? I keep hearing your little "whats wrong with the trail" quip...oh so short....and to the point!
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did we have to...cringe...revive this thread in all its ignorant glory...cringe
Well, we wouldn't want it to be lost would we?
Can we burn it??? I keep hearing your little "whats wrong with the trail" quip...oh so short....and to the point!
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Do you realize I was actually a bit puzzled at the time? In fact I went and looked before I posted to be sure there was a trail where I remembered one being. One does have to wonder why that book failed to list it.
BTW, a better way to do El Capitan might be to do a one way hike from Tamark Flat Campground and then down Yosemite Falls. But even that way is quite long.
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In fact I went and looked before I posted to be sure there was a trail where I remembered one being. One does have to wonder why that book failed to list it.
I wish I could tell you more about the book, but I was so embarrassed by its lack of clarification, that I threw it at the wall....and into the rubbish bin!
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BTW, a better way to do El Capitan might be to do a one way hike from Tamark Flat Campground and then down Yosemite Falls. But even that way is quite long.
I am still looking at several possible routes for this trip. It can be done as a one-way from either direction. I believe that Mike suggested accessing it from the Old Stage Road (which I have a map that includes it) that comes out of the camp ground (we could be talking the same here) that would shave off three or so miles from the hike. I will have to talk to him about this again.
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Which one of these routes would you personally recommend (the distances arent too bad -- 20 miles is my limit for a day hike, depending on elevation gain, of course)
If you can get somebody to do the car thing, I'd say Tamerack. Don't do it too early tough; Cascade Creek can be a bit much to cross.
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Well.. at least I didn't put this picture here:
So I don't think she'll be too mad.
So I don't think she'll be too mad.
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Could one put the URL of this thread in ones signature?
That probably depends on one's desire to live.
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Could one put the URL of this thread in ones signature?
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Do they sell Bear Pheramone spray or gel? Let's just say that I am looking into it (just a itty bitty dab on Mike's back pack).....
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Do they sell Bear Pheramone spray or gel? Let's just say that I am looking into it (just a itty bitty dab on Mike's back pack).....
Why not use honey?
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Do they sell Bear Pheramone spray or gel? Let's just say that I am looking into it (just a itty bitty dab on Mike's back pack).....
Why not use honey?
I thought that that(bears liking honey) was just something they made up for Winnie-the-Pooh!
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I thought that that(bears liking honey) was just something they made up for Winnie-the-Pooh!
No, they like honey.
Note to Self: don't forget little jar of honey on that backpacking trip..
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Bee,
Many a beekeeper has seen their hives torn to pieces by a bear after the honey. They will wade right through a hive ignoring the hundreds of bee stings. Honey is king to them. They love all kinds of sweets.
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Where is the goat "emoicon" thingy? Equality for all... (please) (pretty please)
(awwww.... cmon... the picture of QB on El Cap. was funny... no harm intended!)
(I promise!)
(no no no... serious... no matter how goofy her comments... I look forward to her innocent view of the world)
(ok ok ok... maybe not so innocent)
<insert goat emoition thingy here> <preferable goat looking cool and smart and stuff>
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<preferable goat looking cool and smart and stuff>
Isn't that the goat equivalent of an oxymoron?
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(awwww.... cmon... the picture of QB on El Cap. was funny... no harm intended!)
(I promise!)
Goatie, the pic came out as a little red X on my puter; if you fixed it, its WAAAY lost in this HUGE thread
I'm SPAY-SHUL that's why I have my owe hive of emoticons
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Goatie, the pic came out as a little red X on my puter; if you fixed it, its WAAAY lost in this HUGE thread
Dangitall! Again... foiled by picasaweb! again!!!
<http://picasaweb.google.com/dale.dekeyser/TempJunk#5333100915406030242>;
And you're right... the thread is waaaay tooo long now... especially since guests don't even see
the really good stuff towards the end since the default is not the flat view!
Although come to think about it... they probably don't make it past the second post...
especially if they are drinking anything... they're probably cleaning off the compooper screen
from the spray of soda or water ... or picking themselves off the floor...
I may have to pull the old "whitney poop thread" trick and resurrect it anew with just the really good
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Where is the goat "emoicon" thingy? Equality for all... (please) (pretty please)
I haven't found one I can use yet.
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<insert goat emoition thingy here> <preferable goat looking cool and smart and stuff>
This is the coolest goat I've found so far and it isn't really emoticon fodder:
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What! He's not in a sleeping bag so how come he is peeing himself?
(am I allowed to say that?)
I think we chased off all the adults, so I think yer safe!
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"A stitch in time...."
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"A stitch in time...."
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Isn't it past your bedtime, Len??!!
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Isn't it past your bedtime, Len??!!
ATTA GRIL [sic]!
KEEP THE THREAD ALIVE!!!
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Could one put the URL of this thread in ones signature?
>MIKE!!<I thought you were a sweetie pie!
That is a downright EVIL idea!
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He's dangerous.
I'm the
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Could one put the URL of this thread in ones signature?
I thought you were a sweetie pie!
That is a downright EVIL idea!
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Perhaps this will help:
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Perhaps this will help:
EEEEK! Your stock just went up! (in my personality portfolio)
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And you can always give him a nice slap:
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Well.. at least I didn't put this picture here:
So I don't think she'll be too mad.
Wh-wh-what picture (NO, DON"T POST IT...I'm not askin' you to post it)(I just wanna know what it was..IN A PM!!)
Arn't WOLVES the NATURAL ENEMY OF GOATS? Don't they have a re-introduction of WOLVES IN YOSEMITE project on the list???
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I think there's a pass out of Kings Canyon called Goat Pass? I'm going to go see if there really is one this weekend
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I think there's a pass out of Kings Canyon called Goat Pass? I'm going to go see if there really is one this weekend
Good Luck.
Maybe someone calls the pass between Goat and Munger Goat Pass. Or maybe one of the 2 passes between Goat and Kid.
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Moving this to the appropriate location.
Blame it on the
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Ask the "Bee"s for directions instead?
"leaving the Yose Falls 'spur' and heading north young one - bear lefty at the sign - it will lead you on the righteous path" - WWQB
"leaving the Yose Falls 'spur' and heading north young one - bear lefty at the sign - it will lead you on the righteous path" - WWQB
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bear lefty at the sign
Is that... the dreaded Southpaw Bear!!!???
[P.S. We're glad to see that this thread is back at the top of the heap where it belongs. The Beaks.]
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Now yer REALLY busted, Goatie!!
I will ask Master Eeek if he can look up a Goat-Skinning Kit on one of his resource sites!!!
(I thought that the Obsession Thread was annoying, but this one is a set-up..!)
YES, BEAKS, the SouthPaw has a pretty good hook....where is that GOAT..!
I will ask Master Eeek if he can look up a Goat-Skinning Kit on one of his resource sites!!!
(I thought that the Obsession Thread was annoying, but this one is a set-up..!)
YES, BEAKS, the SouthPaw has a pretty good hook....where is that GOAT..!
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The Goat is pushing the log used to cross the reee-ver into the waaater.
(I'm kinda upset you didn't copy the photo on reply though)
So here it is again:
(I'm kinda upset you didn't copy the photo on reply though)
So here it is again:
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...Measureing up for those new Goat Skin Gloves...!!!! maybe a new pair of goat skin booties to match???
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Okay, I actually have something useful to add to this thread whomever suggested Eagle Peak as a destination, was right on the mark! The view from the peak was wonderful, AND it was a great place to wake up to.
(Billy, quick, on cue -- post a picture of Eagle Peak) (it would take me too long to find it in the stash)
(Billy, quick, on cue -- post a picture of Eagle Peak) (it would take me too long to find it in the stash)
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Okay, I actually have something useful to add to this thread whomever suggested Eagle Peak as a destination, was right on the mark! The view from the peak was wonderful, AND it was a great place to wake up to.
(Billy, quick, on cue -- post a picture of Eagle Peak) (it would take me too long to find it in the stash)
HAR HAR HAR!!!!!
Guess who THAT was! joe_schmo.
(see page 2)
Lemme find a nice Eagle Peeekture...
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