Re: Dismal March snow surveys but a good forecast for storms this week

This weeked should bring the biggest storm of them all. Every weather forecast is prediciting a very potent storm coming in.

i have a campground reservation for the following monday... i normally go Hwy 120, but i bet i'll hit snow at that higher elevation... i think i'll go Hwy 140 instead... tuesday is suppose to be sunny.

The weekend storm is predicted to dump snow at the lower elevations also. Wouldn't be surprised if there's snow down to Mariposa.

I'm remember back in 2006 driving to Yosemite in late February on Hwy 140 and the snow accumulation started just past Catheys Valley. Later read that the snow level of that storm was the lowest for a Sierra storm in the past 20 years.

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i have a campground reservation for the following monday... i normally go Hwy 120, but i bet i'll hit snow at that higher elevation... i think i'll go Hwy 140 instead... tuesday is suppose to be sunny.

And the poppies in the Merced Canyon are supposed to be putting on a good show right now.

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i have a campground reservation for the following monday... i normally go Hwy 120, but i bet i'll hit snow at that higher elevation... i think i'll go Hwy 140 instead... tuesday is suppose to be sunny.

And the poppies in the Merced Canyon are supposed to be putting on a good show right now.

Yesterday, The Sierra Sun Times had a picture of the poppies. Beautiful. Hopefully the blossoms will not be damaged by the storm.

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parklover
Yesterday, The Sierra Sun Times had a picture of the poppies. Beautiful. Hopefully the blossoms will not be damaged by the storm.

I hope they got the name right. The Mariposa Gazette called them California poppies. They lack the peduncle between the stem and the petals. I've heard them referred to as Valley poppies, or Mexican poppies. I'm not sure which, if either, is correct.



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Yesterday, The Sierra Sun Times had a picture of the poppies. Beautiful. Hopefully the blossoms will not be damaged by the storm.

I hope they got the name right. The Mariposa Gazette called them California poppies. They lack the peduncle between the stem and the petals. I've heard them referred to as Valley poppies, or Mexican poppies. I'm not sure which, if either, is correct.

I have never heard the poppies called Valley poppies and could not find that name in any reference books I have.

I did find this info at enature which has one of the simplier explainations:


The Mexican Poppy is a subspecies of the California poppy.

Mexican Gold Poppy Eschscholzia californica ssp. Mexicana
Family: Papaveraceae,

Description A low, erect or sprawling, pale bluish-green plant with fern-like leaves, mostly near base, and orange-yellow, cup-shaped flowers borne singly on stalks.
Habit: native annual or perennial herb; variable; colony-forming.
Leaf: at base and alternate on stem, deeply dissected
Flower: 4-parted cup, solid golden orange to golden yellow with orange center (rarely white or pink with orange-yellow center), 2-3 in (5-7.5 cm) long and wide, on stalk as long or longer than leaf.
Fruit: narrow pod, 10-veined, to 4 in (10 cm) long, tapering to point.

Warning Can be poisonous if ingested. Sensitivity to a toxin varies with a person’s age, weight, physical condition, and individual susceptibility. Children are most vulnerable because of their curiosity and small size. Toxicity can vary in a plant according to season, the plant’s different parts, and its stage of growth; and plants can absorb toxic substances, such as herbicides, pesticides, and pollutants from the water, air, and soil.

Flower February to September, depending on rainfall and location.

Habitat Open, well-drained, sandy or gravelly places: grassy hillsides, deserts, outwash fans, flats; to 6500 ft (2000 m); also grown as an ornamental.
Range Native to Sonoran and Mojave Deserts of southwest U.S.; escaped from cultivation and naturalized throughout North America.

Discussion Also called California poppy, Arizona poppy. Considered weedy or invasive in some areas. The Spanish name, Amopalo del Campo, means "poppy of the countryside." This is appropriate, for when there are ample winter rains in the desert, this poppy grows in profusion, covering gravelly outwash fans and arid flats with a golden carpet. Once considered a separate species, Mexican gold poppy is now recognized as a desert-inhabiting subspecies of California poppy (E. californica or E. californica ssp. californica). The two subspecies are exceedingly similar, but Mexican gold poppy is native to the desert southwest, while California poppy is native to inland valleys of that state. Although California poppy always displays a prominent ring or rim underneath its flower, this structure may be inconspicuous in Mexican gold poppy. The first leaves on seedlings of Mexican gold poppy are linear and undivided, whereas on seedlings of California poppy they are divided in a Y-shape (a difference learned by careful greenhouse study).

Comments Mexican gold poppy resembles California gold poppy. It often self-sows to form large colonies. Its flowers are open in warm, dry, sunny weather, and are closed on cloudy and wet days and at night.

Exposure Preference Sun.

Native Distribution W. Texas to extreme s.w. Utah, Arizona & adjacent Mexico

Site Preference Plains & mesas; 4500 ft. or lower

Soil Preference Well-drained sands & loams or limestone.

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.... Although California poppy always displays a prominent ring or rim underneath its flower, this structure may be inconspicuous in Mexican gold poppy. ...

That structure is that peduncle I mentioned. The flowers in the Merced Canyon do not have one. Mexican Poppy is probably the one in the canyon. Of course, there are a few of the Calif. poppy mixed in.

16.3 inches of snow expected

Sure was a pretty St Patrick's Day morning. Yosemite not showing much Green, however.
https://plus.google.com/photos/102905579299682181913/albums/5720964541021472497?authkey=CJTuwPmurrXWoQE

Even less green now:

Dramatic light as sun is breaking through. Can't wait to see what kind of shots the pros got today.
https://plus.google.com/photos/102905579299682181913/albums/5721403396503378513?authkey=COWg2ZKwscukOw#photos/102905579299682181913/albums/5721403396503378513/5721403395984999554?authkey=COWg2ZKwscukOw

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Jon Mure

Dramatic light as sun is breaking through. Can't wait to see what kind of shots the pros got today.
https://plus.google.com/photos/102905579299682181913/albums/5721403396503378513?authkey=COWg2ZKwscukOw#photos/102905579299682181913/albums/5721403396503378513/5721403395984999554?authkey=COWg2ZKwscukOw

When I click on your link above, this is what I get:

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Dramatic light as sun is breaking through. Can't wait to see what kind of shots the pros got today.
https://plus.google.com/photos/102905579299682181913/albums/5721403396503378513?authkey=COWg2ZKwscukOw#photos/102905579299682181913/albums/5721403396503378513/5721403395984999554?authkey=COWg2ZKwscukOw

When I click on your link above, this is what I get:

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I got the same thing.

I got a 403 error yesterday but was able to see it now (stunning photo, btw...as common a viewpoint as this is, the clouds and unusual light actually had me wondering "where IS that?" for a second!).

BTW, a 403 error usually means "access forbidden" but it's issued under a lot of circumstances so it's not as straight-forward as "permission denied." About all it really tells you for sure is that the server probably found the information to which you were linking but it's refusing to transmit it for some reason.

eeek,
What are the steps that you use to post your Happy Isles webcam shot directly to your message, without posting a link which then has to be opened? My link works when I test it in the preview, but others always have problems opening my link.
Thanks.

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eeek,
What are the steps that you use to post your Happy Isles webcam shot directly to your message, without posting a link which then has to be opened? My link works when I test it in the preview, but others always have problems opening my link.
Thanks.

Usually I just right click on the image and select the option to get its URL. Then I paste the URL into the box that pops up when I click the tool. But in this case since I didn't want the image changing I saved a copy (USGS created images are public domain) and uploaded it to the server.



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eeek,
Thanks.
Appreciate your explanation. Really enjoy this website.