So disappointed. Beyond really.
Why? (no answer will make it "ok" btw)
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Anyway, chick-on, I get your disappointment, but I'm not sure I can share your anger.
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...or the historic blasting of the El Cap moraine that lowered the valley water level.
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...or the historic blasting of the El Cap moraine that lowered the valley water level.
Every time I hear about "restoring Yosemite Valley to it's original beauty" I think of this specific event. I haven't found anything other than brief references to it, and cannot claim detailed knowledge of the extent of the changes it spawned. It strikes me from just the short description as a human-created change with impact likely on par with many (if not most) others that have occurred during the course of human visitation. Yet I hear of no one suggesting that the moraine be rebuilt (nor am I suggesting that it be).
So ultimately, whenever "restoration" is cited as a motivation or justification, it seems to me that it's actually "restoration to some (real or imagined) image of the past", not something that is well-understood, agreed-upon, or even defined. That makes it quite hard to quantify or evaluate.
Re: Why would Yosemite cut down 7 Sequoias?!? January 28, 2020 08:54PM | Registered: 9 years ago Posts: 166 |
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And, while I'm generally in favor of restoring Yosemite to a more natural condition, I think in this case the park service has gone too far in trying to achieve an unattainable level of purity or perfection at the expense of common sense. The oak woodland they are trying to preserve is possibly no more natural than these Sequoias were; it's well-known that the Native Americans who lived in the valley did extensive meadow burning to encourage oak production. It's doubtful that anyone really knows what the pre-human natural condition for the valley was. .
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Mr. chick-on, I too was very saddened by the murdering of said Sequoia trees. I had enjoyed their beauty for many years, and while bicycling about the Valley I would always stop by to admire them and pay them a visit. I somewhat understand the NPS logic for removing them, but also support the position put forth by several here as to what exactly is the definition of 'natural' in the history of Yosemite Valley? I could perhaps understand if they had been planted in the past 10 or 20 years, but for tall, majestic trees that were almost 100 years old, just leave them be and allow them to be 'grandfathered' in as something historically significant (much like Lamon's apple trees).
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