QuoteDaveOften there can be communications problems. Volunteers try, but cannot be held to the same standards as park staff. There is a manual, I forget the name, and they should have a copy of it in the main office. Anyone taking entrance fees should read it. The volunteer should have spent a bit more time explaining. It's not that difficult. I've done it hundreds of times. It is issued to oby y_p_w - General Discussion
Quotetroutwild One senior in each car with a valid "America The Beautiful" pass would have allowed them free entrance. (or 8 people if it were a walk-in facility) If asked, the attendant should have indeed explained the options. I would note that the visitors seemed to be Chinese, and as far as I could tell the two seniors in their group barely understood English. I'm not sure if thby y_p_w - General Discussion
QuoteDave It is the job of the entrance station personnel to access the needs of the visitor and to help them understand the various passes. The national monuments must be run differently than the national parks. As for the Golden Age Passes; if any of the visitors were married they would have only needed one pass for the couple. The gate attendant needs some training. I actually got my mom herby y_p_w - General Discussion
Well - I was visiting Muir Woods National Monument today with my kid. We've already got an annual pass, which is $20 and admits everyone traveling in the same vehicle (hard to tell though since it's walk-in only entrance) or the holder and up to three guests. Well today I saw a large group. They had two seniors and asked if there was a discount (none except if they got an lifetime pass if theyby y_p_w - General Discussion
The shoes where I have the issue do sort of have low arches. I just assumed that the heel cushioning was the issue. I remember I used to have nasty heel issues wearing leather Sperry Top Siders. I tried using heel cushions that partially relieved the pain from contact, but I'm guessing didn't solve the issue.by y_p_w - Backpacking and Hiking Yosemite and the Sierra
I tend to walk on my heels and have some shoes with fairly simple foam midsoles. Shoes like Nikes with air inserts or Merrel "Air Cushion" seem to provide decent protection against heel shock, but I got some shoes that I like other than poor protection in the heel. Four to five days even walking in Yosemite could be an issue. I figure either a sole or just a heel cup. I've tried sby y_p_w - Backpacking and Hiking Yosemite and the Sierra
QuoteSoCalCPA What do you mean they changed the rules again - (I have some friends' kids who are coming from back east in June who wanted to climb HD) I have Wilderness permits for the Sunrise Trailhead to camp around Clouds Rest the first night and climb HD the next day - When I requested the permits back in January, I requested to also have the permits for HD and I was granted the permits - Amby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Another note. I tried walking around the office with these things to break them in. Even walked to the car. Doesn't do much on carpet, but we've got typical industrial kitchen tiles, and they left skid marks when I tested how grippy they are (and they really are). Since this is the same type of rubber that's used in climbing shoes, don't they leave marks on the rock? I seem to recall thatby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quotegophersnake The time I took those Mist Trail pictures I was wearing Tecnica Hermano cross-trainers. I've since switched to Merrell Moab Ventilators. Either shoe gives me great traction under all normal conditions but nothing works under all conditions. I personally find sandy rocks more of a challenge than wet ones (but I'm also on sandy rocks more often than on wet ones). I'd think that wetby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
QuoteAlmostThere Quotey_p_w QuoteAlmostThere I have those. They are good for granite gripping - going up steep slab. I wear hiking shoes (Trekstas or Keens) on the Mist Trail without issues. Good lugs on the sole are all you need - just stay away from street shoes and you'll be fine. I heard this kind of shoe would be ideal for going up the Half Dome cables. I was wearing Merrell backpacking bby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
QuoteparkloverIMO some of the things that have been and will be done in our parks can be questionable,but at least here in the U.S. thing are more carefully protected. Since the water is supposed to peak in mid May, it might not be very misty on the Mist Trail this year unless a big storm comes in. I have always thought t that what is more important is if you make it and not how long it takesby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteparklover I have seen some other pictures of those hotels. I remember once there was all kinds of talk about a gondola to the top of Half dome but no one was really serious about it. At one time in Yosemite there were two hotels at Glacier Point and one in between Vernal and Nevada Falls. If you search the threads here, people have posted pictures and information about them. As for the Mby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteparklover I made a comment on the other thread about my son being fearless. With what all you said on this and the other thread, maybe you should make this trip a more relaxing one and don't get too caught up in trying to do a lot of hikes. With your concern about camping, the worse thing would be to have a kid being really fussy after days of long hikes and ruin the camping experience. Tby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteparklover Nice pic. That was quite an adventure for anyone of any age. My feeling is that the best thing to do with kids is to gradually get them used to what you like to do at a young age. My son''s first trip was to Yosemite at 3 months and three weeks later we flew to PA at 9 months we went to the Grand Canyon. We love long car trips so he got used to them very early on and had no isby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
QuoteOL Depends upon the time of the year you are planning to go and how fit/strong you are. (ie assume you have to carry a toddler at least 50% of the time). Try going to see Lower Yosemite Falls to see if the kid is ok with getting wet w/cold water before considering the Mist Trail. Going up will be safer than going down (ie suggest returning via the JMT/Horse trail). My boy was also 3 the fby y_p_w - Backpacking and Hiking Yosemite and the Sierra
Kid loves to explore, but I'm looking for suggestions. Obviously we're not going to be able to do all-day hikes of 8+ miles, but short trips would be fine. I was thinking Mist Trail, although some were trying to talk me out of it with a kid that young. Of course Mirror Lake. Wondering if taking the bus to Glacier Point and going down Four Mile Trail is possible.by y_p_w - Backpacking and Hiking Yosemite and the Sierra
Quoteparklover As long as your kid enjoys doing these things go for it but just be extra careful. My son has been hiking ever since he has walked but we were always careful to make sure he was enjoying it and soon as he wasn't we stopped to rest and then either continued on or turned around. My comment stems from seeing some miserable kids whose parents kept going even when it was evident toby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
QuoteBearproof One more thing, since I just looked at your shoe picture again, noticing the hard carbon-graphite-looking plastic support at the bottom in the arch area. I had a pair of shoes from a different manufacturer a while back that had a similar thing...most comfortable pair of hiking shoes ever, could go for days in them. They had great support. Problem was I often, when scrambling on talby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
QuoteAlmostThere I have those. They are good for granite gripping - going up steep slab. I wear hiking shoes (Trekstas or Keens) on the Mist Trail without issues. Good lugs on the sole are all you need - just stay away from street shoes and you'll be fine. I heard this kind of shoe would be ideal for going up the Half Dome cables. I was wearing Merrell backpacking boots with Vibram hiking soleby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteparklover I agree with eeeek. I think those soles are going to get a lot of wear and tear on them. You would be better sticking with Vibram hiking soles. Don't want to be a party pooper but do you really want to take a toddler up the mist trail when it probably is going to be very wet and slippery? My plan was actually to wear a pair of ordinary sneakers up the paved portion and switch tby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteeeek Never tried those but I'd say the Mist Trail is a lot like a paved trail (just uses granite instead), and I really like have lugs on my soles for those steps. The shoes I ordered aren't exactly lugged. It's a different mold using their climbing rubber formula. Five Ten makes a lot of stuff just beyond climbing and approach shoes. They have a lot of casual bike shoes, and even if thby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
I've gone up and/or down the Mist Trail before, but this time I'm doing it with a toddler who might need to be carried sometimes. I previously did it with normal hiking/backpacking boots. I know it might still be a bit slippery in mid-June. I just ordered a pair of Five Ten approach shoes with their sticky dotted rubber sole. I'd be hesitant to wear those on the paved portion because I undeby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quotehotrod4x5 Quotey_p_w I was there that year - maybe a week earlier than you. I hiked up Upper Yosemite Fall Trail to the bridge and back. There was a fresh dump of snow and I was postholing my way at the top without gaiters. It was great with the snow. I did talk to one group of college kids staying at Camp 4. I was wondering why they picked that as a large group, when they could have beby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
You mean it wasn't miracled into existence over a period of a few hundred years?by y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
I was there that year - maybe a week earlier than you. I hiked up Upper Yosemite Fall Trail to the bridge and back. There was a fresh dump of snow and I was postholing my way at the top without gaiters. It was great with the snow. I did talk to one group of college kids staying at Camp 4. I was wondering why they picked that as a large group, when they could have been at Upper Pines with a pby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Desolation. One of the things I enjoy is the practicality of the place. There's no pretense (like with NPS) that anything that looks like man had been there must be eliminated. The impacts to the character are minor, but there's still a few dams as well as access roads.by y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Maybe used with a drain floor? I saw this. It has a fitting for a hose, although I'm not sure how well it works unless it's placed on a elevated stand with the container below the floor. http://www.hotcampshowers.com/inc/sdetail/371by y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteboomtown Quoteplawrence Quoteboomtown Who can name the lake? Lower Merced Pass Lake . Ding! Ding! Ding! ....we have a winner! Lockheed Lodestar lost in Lower Merced Pass Lake. There is a great account of that story in the book "Death In Yosemite". One of my favorite books about Yosemite. I highly recommend it. There are a lot of stories. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
Quoteboomtown http://www.campsitephotos.com/campground/Upper-Pines Try this link to get recon on your site#. This is for Upper Pines but once you are in there, you can choose any campground. I saw a photo of the site there. The issue I have is that there's plenty of room off to the side of the parking pad, but I'm sort of worried about my tent getting run over by the campers next door. I'vby y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion
QuoteHitech Something to remember, water is never "wasted". What is wasted is the energy used to process it and transport it to wherever it is used. There's a certain impracticality in terms of local/regional supply availability. We don't have unlimited power to create a useful water supply, and there are also concerns of what that kind of processing does to the local environment.by y_p_w - Yosemite and the Sierra Nevada. News & Discussion