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Water magically appears inside Bear Vault?
July 21, 2015 08:25AM
On our recent trip to Mono Pass and Pioneer Basin, we had something happen that really took us by surprise. No, it wasn't the hailstorm that clobbered us right at dusk--although we had hoped we would miss that particular adventure. But it's related to that.



The next morning, when we got up and inspected the damage around our campsite from the hailstorm, we were surprised to see about a half an inch of water sloshing around inside our Bearvault.

Huh? The bear can was sitting away from our tent, in a small clearing among some trees, and it was upright the entire time---from before the storm hit to the next morning. So how did all that water get into the can?

All we can imagine is that the small lip on the bear can that sticks out beyond the lid was saturated during the rain and hailstorm, and that the can and its contents were relatively warm from the day's hike. As the contents cooled, they must have created a bit of a vacuum, and if the lip were saturated with water, maybe the vacuum sucked the water standing on the lip up through the threads and into the can. And that continued for some time, because the storm lasted a while, and the really cooled down everything--there was still an inch of hail on the ground when we woke up the next morning.

Anybody got a better explanation?



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avatar Re: Water magically appears inside Bear Vault?
July 21, 2015 08:42AM
Maybe you left a packet of dehydrated water in there?
Re: Water magically appears inside Bear Vault?
July 21, 2015 08:54AM
HA! I wish it were that simple. Pretty amazing to get up in the morning and see the water rolling around in there. At least everything we had was wrapped/bagged/packaged in something, so we didn't lose any of our food...



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Re: Water magically appears inside Bear Vault?
July 21, 2015 10:02AM
I think your explanation is spot on. There were a few times where my bear can wouldn't open due to what seemed to be frozen water between the lid and the canister.
Re: Water magically appears inside Bear Vault?
July 30, 2015 06:02AM
Sarah at BearVault was kind enough to respond to our recent questions about water getting into the BearVault during a storm. Here's what she wrote:

"There is a small lip on the BearVault housing which prevents a bear’s claw or tooth from getting under the lid during an attack. If the BearVault is almost perfectly upright then during a rain this lip can allow a small “moat” of water to form at the top of the housing. If the storm then passes during the night, the atmospheric pressure gets higher and this forces the water in the “moat” up the threads and into the housing.

To prevent this, just tilt the unit slightly during the night so that the water cannot accumulate in that “moat” if it rains- it’s that simple."



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avatar Re: Water magically appears inside Bear Vault?
July 31, 2015 09:47AM
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balzaccom
Sarah at BearVault was kind enough to respond to our recent questions about water getting into the BearVault during a storm. Here's what she wrote:

"There is a small lip on the BearVault housing which prevents a bear’s claw or tooth from getting under the lid during an attack. If the BearVault is almost perfectly upright then during a rain this lip can allow a small “moat” of water to form at the top of the housing. If the storm then passes during the night, the atmospheric pressure gets higher and this forces the water in the “moat” up the threads and into the housing.

To prevent this, just tilt the unit slightly during the night so that the water cannot accumulate in that “moat” if it rains- it’s that simple."

So your initial theory about how it occurred was basically correct. smiling smiley

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Re: Water magically appears inside Bear Vault?
July 31, 2015 10:11AM
Every once in a while, I'm right. Just to keep me on my toes...



Balzaccom

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Re: Water magically appears inside Bear Vault?
July 31, 2015 09:43PM
Good advice on the tilting! Thanks!
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