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Re: White wolf and Pate Valley conditions?

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White wolf and Pate Valley conditions?
June 22, 2010 01:37PM
Anyone hike out of the White wolf entrance yet? Talked to ranger yesterday who said "there should be snow up there" though she wasn't sure of herself and didn't quite tell me how much. Is it snow covered such that trails are not visible? Planning to head down into Pate and beyond if conditions are right for it.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 06/22/2010 05:22PM by PeterL.
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June 22, 2010 07:45PM
Bill-e-g posted on this a day or so ago. Crossing Morrison Creek could be exciting.



Old Dude
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June 22, 2010 11:40PM
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mrcondron
Bill-e-g posted on this a day or so ago. Crossing Morrison Creek could be exciting.

And if the goat thinks a crossing is exciting...
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June 23, 2010 07:10AM
The gate was still closed on Sunday. No cars at gate.
Maybe we will find out soon if a couple people here go.
I've crossed Morrison on logs in early June before... and almost took a plunge
due to slippery logs... so there probably is a log ... but the south side
is very steep so... if you are carrying a large pack it'll be fun.
On way back I just walk thru it...
The good thing is that I know for certain the path thru it does not have any
big drops like Register crossing. So... if you are comfy with
very swift creek crossings it may be a non issue.
Typically this time of year it would be no big deal. Not so sure this yr.
with monster snow.

I highly doubt you're doing the Ten Lakes loop so... I'll say this again...
I recommend starting at Glen Aulin... go down to as far as you like...
(Register was an issue 2 wkends ago... ) ... turn around... and
come back.

More here:
http://yosemitenews.info/forum/read.php?3,26056

If you're only going down to Pate and back then it really doesn't matter.
Just getting to Morrison is nice.
If you go that way take a pix of Harden and post it please.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2010 02:15PM by bill-e-g.
Re: White wolf and Pate Valley conditions?
June 23, 2010 01:36PM
Peter, when I last spoke with the wilderness permit office a few days ago, I was told that 1) the gate will likely still be closed this weekend, so you have to park on the side of the road and then walk to the trailhead from there (or YARTS will drop you off there if you use that shuttle). 2) you're likely to encounter some snow hiking into white wolf, but not so much as to be a problem. getting to the trailhead from White wolf should be straightforward.

No clue what Pate is like. In the end, looks like we'll just have to see for ourselves



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2010 01:38PM by diesel.
Re: White wolf and Pate Valley conditions?
June 23, 2010 05:20PM
This was posted for June 21 by some Geocachers hiking to Water Wheel Falls. They don't say much about the conditions, but I guess they made it.

Only two words to describe this cache: TOTALLY AWESOME. Eight friends and I were on our Mancation 2010 trip where we hiked 28 miles in 4 days going from White Wolf-Pate Valley-Muir Gorge-Grand Canyon of Tuolomne-Glen Aulin-Meadows. Great scenery all around and a great adventure. Ended up seeing deer,chipmunks, snakes, fish, and a bunch of other flora/fauna throughout the hike. We got here on day 3, about 16 miles into the trip. And I'm the first to log this year. Will post pics when I get done traveling in a week. There were plenty of hikers headed to the Falls going opposite direction of us but I guess they weren't cachers. Most physically demanding cache I've ever done with all the elevation change and switchbacks.
Re: White wolf and Pate Valley conditions?
June 23, 2010 11:07PM
Good to know someone made it. Do you have the link to where that was posted?



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/23/2010 11:07PM by diesel.
Re: White wolf and Pate Valley conditions?
June 24, 2010 05:18PM
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diesel
Good to know someone made it. Do you have the link to where that was posted?
Geocache.com
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June 24, 2010 06:38AM
Figures he sees snakes! (although dunno where da heck he saw fish) (raging river)
(suprised he didn't mention the donkey skull)

Anyway, just for the record... Any advice/opinion I dole out errs on the side of cautious
due to I have no idea what peeps experience level is. Typical Joe Schmo hiker out
there doesn't do much to be honest (we did > 28 miles in 4 days on our GCT trip also...
and for 3 of the days it was > 1/2 the day of lounging.. so much so I had to go find
something to climb.. )

Mancation? O boy.... that's in the same league as calling something not epic epic.
Or staycation. geez... what's next? Hella Epic? Shoot me now

And I thought NPs really frowned on the geogache garb.

One other note... in case I haven't said it before... Myself... I really don't care what
the ranger says... just gimme the permit I wanna see for myself, thanks...

Anyway, enough.

You'll have a great trip.
Have fun
Re: White wolf and Pate Valley conditions?
June 24, 2010 09:37AM
Thanks again for all your info and advice. Just curious, What/where did you end up climbing along the route?
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June 24, 2010 10:40AM
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diesel
What/where did you end up climbing along the route?

If you look at the pictures:
http://picasaweb.google.com/yosemite.chick.on/GCTuolumne

You'll see the route. (It's a black dotted line in the first map I believe)
BM 8886

Someone else asked me about that and I put a few more in there w/ regards to it.
I do not recommend going up the way I went though... (the black dash)
unless u are comfortable with class 3 stuff and some friction climbing.
(I went counter clockwise) (and coming down was thru low shrub/boulder hopping)

Have fun
Re: White wolf and Pate Valley conditions?
June 24, 2010 05:15PM
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bill-e-g


And I thought NPs really frowned on the geogache garb.

It is a virtual cache. No container. Just go there and then log it.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 06/24/2010 09:16PM by traildad.
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June 24, 2010 05:25PM
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traildad
[It is a virtual cache. No container. Just go there and then log it.

ic

in dat case

Chick-on wuz der!
logged,
da Chickon Boo

(that's for the education) (learn sumtin everyday)



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