The other thread was getting to be a bit long. Please group in threes to make keep ones place easier.
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Umm, the 5th one is for a yard sale. They might be a little confused when it gets removed! (see you caught that)
Has anyone noticed that the disclaimer on recreation.gov has changed? I can't remember if the bigger one was while booking or on the first page...
Also the Half Dome permits are allowed to be traded or transferred, just not sold or auctioned. Let's play by the rules, we are trying to get them enforced.
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Also the Half Dome permits are allowed to be traded or transferred, just not sold or auctioned. Let's play by the rules, we are trying to get them enforced.
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http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/wan/2388527108.html IS NOT PROHIBITED, you are allowed to trade half dome permits! They are not allowed to sell or auction the permits, so this guy is not doing anything wrong.
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What is your reaction to this post, for example?
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/for/2387833582.html
If this guy has all these dates to trade, it's pretty clear he's a scalper. I'll definitely flag trades like this every time I see them.
TOO LATE: got taken down. The post I was referring to was someone trying to trade dates in 3 concurrent weeks for a specific date. While I know there are some people lucky enough to visit yosemite every week, I doubt they would hate the park enough to post their campsites on craigslist.
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Why raise the fee?
Another simple solution would be to allow people to reserve and pay for the Half Dome permits via recreation.gov, but they'll need to pick up the Half Dome permits, in person, at the Yosemite Wilderness Center within three days of their hike. And they'll need to show a valid ID to the ranger to pick up their permits. This would solve most, if not all, of the scalping issues. And it would also discourage people from trying to trades permits from one date for another.
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We need to be more organized and effective on this - Can someone come up with a cookbook response to recreation.gov that we can send as a comment/complaint/observation/whatever that way we can all cut and paste it and send it separately from the many that use this forum - I think if we request that the reservations be made non-transferable, include at least three additional fields for alternate names in case the first party cannot be there, and request that they use the code/name that's all fuzzy when logging in that an application would not be able to get pass -
This way we can go directly to the source rather than keep on flagging craigslist (sometimes I feel like the little dutchboy flagging these things)
Maybe we can also come up with a cookbook response to craigslist that we can send them regarding people that are looking for campsites/permits as well - If we get their attention maybe they will do something about it
Worth a try? - What do you think?
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Could you edit out the 2391095956.html link please? That one is just informing people the cables won't be up. Thanks.
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My reasoning is that craigslist is a forum for selling things, and not a place where you're likely to have hikers looking out for and helping each other for altruistic reasons. I don't especially love the idea of flagging buyers, but recognize it as necessary to get all these middlemen who add no utility out from in between hikers/campers and the NPS.
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My reasoning is that craigslist is a forum for selling things, and not a place where you're likely to have hikers looking out for and helping each other for altruistic reasons. I don't especially love the idea of flagging buyers, but recognize it as necessary to get all these middlemen who add no utility out from in between hikers/campers and the NPS.
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don't get fooled by the ads that are not being posted right now.
scalpers are trying every trick they can think of
They may very well let loose for a week and start hitting the bags again once june rolls around. Or, maybe this hiatus will last a day or two.
Either way, I am checking everyday, multiple times a day.
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