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I am probably the only one that wants to see the all-mighty Ahwahnee Hotel burn (figure of speech, of course) to the ground. It represents an untouchable monarchy (that I'll never be a part of) that digusts me.
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I know, but they sure as heck get the revenue off of those tax dollars (spent in the park) and it is on federally-ran land.
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I know, but they sure as heck get the revenue off of those tax dollars (spent in the park) and it is on federally-ran land.
Complex issue-- should we have higher taxes or park admission fees to pay for these enhancements? Should the parks be run fully by the government and resemble the austere facilities at a VA hospital, military base or federal office building? The concessionaire-NPS relationship has a long and checkered history, but may be the best of alternatives. I hate to pay the 150% to 200% markup on goods and services in the parks, but, hey, the ambient pulchritude is free otherwise and it motivates me to be a better planner or more creative in servicing my needs.
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I know, but they sure as heck get the revenue off of those tax dollars (spent in the park) and it is on federally-ran land.
Complex issue-- should we have higher taxes or park admission fees to pay for these enhancements? Should the parks be run fully by the government and resemble the austere facilities at a VA hospital, military base or federal office building? The concessionaire-NPS relationship has a long and checkered history, but may be the best of alternatives. I hate to pay the 150% to 200% markup on goods and services in the parks, but, hey, the ambient pulchritude is free otherwise and it motivates me to be a better planner or more creative in servicing my needs.
Try the markup at a really isolated place like Isle Royale NP's Rock Harbor Lodge (assuming we're discussing non-self-contained park access, in contrast to most of what we post here - one of my backpacking luxury items is a sun shower), where any electricity is generated on-site because there's no connection to the grid (Lake Superior's in the way). So there's a special 'tax' to account for the specialized requirements.
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I paid close to $6/gallon for gas in Death Valley this year but considering the alternative-- getting towed for 100 miles to a cheaper gas station, it seemed like a good deal.
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I paid close to $6/gallon for gas in Death Valley this year but considering the alternative-- getting towed for 100 miles to a cheaper gas station, it seemed like a good deal.
So it's gone up a bit since May?
http://yosemitephotos.net/main.php/v/dvnp/sc-dsc_1522.jpg.html
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I suspect that determining eligibility for charitable cheap showers offered pro bono would require filling out an application that would take 2 weeks to review, submitting a recent tax return, and getting three letters of recommendation (including one from your Senator) prior to approval.
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You could always use the Merced or Tenaya Creek with some biodegradable/environmentally friendly soap for your showering purposes.
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Use the new shower house. No attendants, no fees.
New shower house? Do you mean the one at Camp Curry that was closed after the last big rockfall there?
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We go to many different National Parks and Yosemite has the most expensive lodging. Even in Yellowstone it is cheaper. For $180 a night at Zion Lodge you can get a redecorated cabin with a porch, separate dressing area, a full bathroom, heat/AC, Pendleton wool blankets, pillows and drapes and, my favorite thing, a fireplace. Try to find that in Yosemite Valley. The blankets and pillows are so nice that I bought a set, they were made especially for Zion Lodge. ( I collect Pendleton blankets and have a few limited edition ones)
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How about one of those "sun showers" which are sold at WalMart in the camping section for $8? They are Coleman brand, are somewhat unreliable, but still worth considering.
Sun shower+ Coghlan's Camp Soap+ water "catch basin" (as required by some/all? campgrounds) + some kind of privacy tarp, if desired.
I just can't figure out how to erect a privacy tarp in a neat enough fashion. I also don't care to spend $75+ on a privacy no-see-um mesh shelter. Thoughts...
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