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avatar Day hike to Clouds Rest. Permit required?
August 20, 2013 08:59PM
I will be doing a day hike from Tuolumne HSC to CR in early September. Do I need a permit for that? It will be a group of six of us doing an out and back in one day.
Re: Day hike to Clouds Rest. Permit required?
August 20, 2013 09:58PM
As long as you don't camp or spend the night, you don't need a wilderness permit.



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avatar Re: Day hike to Clouds Rest. Permit required?
August 20, 2013 09:58PM
No.



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avatar Re: Day hike to Clouds Rest. Permit required?
August 21, 2013 12:20AM
Answered already, but I think technically if you're total insomniacs and never have to sleep, you technically don't even need a wilderness permit. How the heck do they really know if someone just slept without a sleeping bag or tent? Some people start their hikes at 3 AM, while others get back with a flashlight past midnight.

There are very few NPS areas where one needs a permit to day hike. The one we know of is the final ascent up the Half Dome cables, which is to limit the number of people. Another one is the Fiery Furnace in Arches, where people need to watch an orientation video. They have an issue with hikers getting lost or hurt.

The only place I've hiked where routine day hiking requires a permit is Desolation Wilderness near Tahoe. There it's a no-quota, no-fee self-issued permit. You write your names on the permit, your intended destinations down, drop the top copy in a box, and attach the permit to the group leader's pack or person. I'm not exactly sure what's the point, but they've done it this way for years. I think I've filled it out five times, and the form changed at least once.
Re: Day hike to Clouds Rest. Permit required?
August 21, 2013 03:26AM
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y_p_w

The only place I've hiked where routine day hiking requires a permit is Desolation Wilderness near Tahoe. There it's a no-quota, no-fee self-issued permit. You write your names on the permit, your intended destinations down, drop the top copy in a box, and attach the permit to the group leader's pack or person. I'm not exactly sure what's the point, but they've done it this way for years. I think I've filled it out five times, and the form changed at least once.
It you go missing, they have an idea of where to start looking.
avatar Re: Day hike to Clouds Rest. Permit required?
August 21, 2013 08:00AM
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The Other Tom
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y_p_w

The only place I've hiked where routine day hiking requires a permit is Desolation Wilderness near Tahoe. There it's a no-quota, no-fee self-issued permit. You write your names on the permit, your intended destinations down, drop the top copy in a box, and attach the permit to the group leader's pack or person. I'm not exactly sure what's the point, but they've done it this way for years. I think I've filled it out five times, and the form changed at least once.
It you go missing, they have an idea of where to start looking.

I remember one trailhead at Yellowstone with an optional trailhead register. It wasn't a permit per se, but I suppose that was their attempt to set up a way to find lost hikers.
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August 21, 2013 03:52PM
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y_p_w
I remember one trailhead at Yellowstone with an optional trailhead register. It wasn't a permit per se, but I suppose that was their attempt to set up a way to find lost hikers.

Joshua Tree uses self-registration at trailheads. But it's only for backpacking.
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