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Without question the "cannot use chainsaws" just isn't true anymore.
I talked to a trail crew leader in Kings Canyon a while back. He said they were allowed to use chainsaws in the National Park but were not allowed to use them on National Forest land. <shrug>
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Interesting. The parks definitely did not used to be allowed to use [chainsaws] in the past.
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chainsaws, maruading super trucks, bullets flying, timber 'managmement', squatting, graffitti -- did I leave out anything?
Yes - pot farms.
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To further comment just a little bit...
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. . . snip . . .
The recent Yosemite Railroad book that thecheif posted is v. interesting.
A great picture of the very top of the Mist Trail right before the comfort station atop
Nevada Falls.
http://yosemitenews.info/forum/read.php?3,71844,71844#msg-71844
That section of trail is in spectacular shape now. Has really stood the test of time..
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One comment / complaint I have in this realm is that the trail workers are being instructedQuote
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something that hikers frequently miss, is that many trails are supposed to be for stock, too.
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Mr. Ken, thanks for the discussion and the insights and docs about trail building.
The work above begs the question(s) (well... from me) ... why are we building trails
for stock? Why do we spend so much time and energy making a trail suitable
for stock? Why do we need to have stock in the backcountry? Are pack outfitters
doing way too much damage?
I think without question stock do an incredible amount of damage and wear and tear
on the trails. Why are pack outfitters needed? Are they? Why? Really why?
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